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>I consider him the greatest creator and editor of products this industry has ever known,

are you effing serious? Greatest creator my ass. He took already built products and refined the hell out of them. Shit, he practically built the company on top of Wozniak's back.



could you give examples of the claimed existing products and how the apple products are "just refinements" of those ?


You don't think refinement of failed products into wildly successful ones is a creative activity?




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