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Simon notes this benchmark is win-win, since he loves pictures of pelicans riding bicycles — if they spend time benchmaxxing it’s like free pelicans for him.

He originally promised to generate a bunch more animals when we got a “good” pelican. This is not a good pelican. This is an OUTSTANDING pelican, a great bicycle, and it even has a little sun ray over the ocean marked out. I’d like to see more animals please Simon!



It is visually outstanding. The only thing that sticks out to me is that the steering column bends out forwards towards the ground (negative trail), which would make it oversteer rather than self-stabilize. Interestingly there's a slight positive trail bend in the second one, though.


> the steering column bends out forwards towards the ground

It’s really fascinating in a way because I would have thought that this would be one of the least difficult parts of the challenge.


Agreed, good is quite an understatement. Every item is drawn superbly, and the basket with the fish is just great. Feels like a big jump over the other models (though granted, this is such a known "benchmark" by now, it's likely gamed to some extent).


If we took a random sample of people from around the world, I wonder how long it would take them to be trained to create a better SVG.


> a great bicycle

It's not. Sorry.

Go look at some real bicycles for reference.


This is a very reasonable drawing of a bicycle. It has a solid rear triangle, and forward swept front fork, which is an important detail for actually being able to steer the bike. The drivetrain is single speed, but that's fine, and the wheels are radially laced, which is also fine: both of those simplified details are things which occur in real bicycles.


>This is a very reasonable drawing of a bicycle

Reasonable? Sure. Great? Absolutely not.

Let's not move the goal posts here.

> and forward swept front fork, which is an important detail for actually being able to steer the bike.

...but no crown or any sort of indication that the fork is separate from the frame, making it impossible to steer. Yay.

> the drivetrain is single speed, but that's fine, and the wheels are radially laced, which is also fine: both of those simplified details are things which occur in real bicycles.

Sure! Now do the bicycle saddle.


What part is missing? It appears to have all the core parts of a bicycle to me?


> What part is missing? It appears to have all the core parts of a bicycle to me?

* I am not an expert in pelican anatomy, but it appears that the bicycle's saddle, if present, would be very deeply inside this pelican (try drawing it onto the frame, and see what you get). Let's be kind, and assume that the seat is simply missing.

* The crown on the fork[1] is missing. The fork is not separate from the frame; so you can't turn the front wheel.

* Neither of pelican's feet are on the pedals (the left foot appears to be missing altogether)

* The wheels are way too small for that frame.

Note: Brakes and gears are nowhere to be seen, but OK, let's just assume it's a fixie (or a single-speed with a coaster brake). Let's also assume the red thing on the basket is there for decoration.

Also, the spokes on a typical bicycle wheel follow a cross-lacing pattern [2], at an angle to the radial direction, and you can see them crossing each other. But OK, let's let that slide.

My point is: sure, this thing at least passes as a bicycle. But it's not a good bicycle drawing.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_fork

[2] https://spokecalc.io/how-to-lace-a-wheel.php


I just think this is insanely pedantic. Most art is not photorealistic, and in fact imo having a crown on the fork may very well make this image worse by taking away from the aesthetic.


Sure, if the "uncanny valley" aesthetic is what you're going for, then by all means, tell the machine to shrink the wheels further.

It's just not what makes a great bicycle picture.

Also, that bicycle's seatpost must be outright penetrating that pelican's cloaca.

You can say I'm being anal about it, and you'll have a point. But it's not that pedantic to notice it.


I think the seat post and the angle of the fork are issues but I just don’t think that the greatness of an image of a bicycle has anything to do with whether you can tell that the fork is a separate piece of metal from the frame. The prompt here isn’t about making an image so that an alien who has never seen a bike can make one, it’s about people recognizing that it’s a normal looking bike and the emotional response that comes from that. The emotional response the vast majority of people have looking at this isn’t “that bike won’t ride”


>a normal looking bike

The wheels are comically small, and the seat is up the pelican's ass. Pardon me, cloaca.

That's not a normal-looking bike to me, but you are welcome to be happy about it.

>The emotional response the vast majority of people have looking at this isn’t “that bike won’t ride”

Right, that's the very definition of a bar for what we call "AI slop".

Looks kind of OK, until you actually look at it.


It's fun when a subject matter expert shows up and blows your mind with their level of knowledge on normally unnoticed intricate details that go into everyday things.


A better comparison would be the monstrosities generated by older models.


Those were shit.

This one is somewhat OK. Not good, merely passing for a bicycle-shaped object.




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