> Chefs do learn the chemistry, at least enough to know why their techniques work
Cooks are idiots (most are either illegal immigrants with no formal education, or substance-abusing degenerates who failed at everything else) who repeat what they're told. They think ridiculous things, like that searing a stake "seals in the juices", or that adding oil to pasta water "prevents sticking", that alcohol completely "cooks off", that salt "makes water boil faster", etc. They are the auto mechanics of food. A few may be formally educated but the vast majority are not. They're just doing what they were shown to do.
> A better analogy is just shoving the entire contents of the fridge into a pot, plastic containers and all, and assuming it'll be fine.
That would never result in a good meal. On the other hand, vibe coding is curently churning out not just working software, but working businesses. You're sleeping on the real effect this is having. And it's getting better every 6 months.
Back to the topic: most programmers actually suck at programming. Their code is full of bugs, and occasionally the code paths run into those bugs and make them noticeable, but they are always there. AI does the same thing, just faster, and it's getting better at it. If you still write code by hand in a few years you will be considered a dinosaur.
> Cooks are idiots (most are either illegal immigrants with no formal education, or substance-abusing degenerates who failed at everything else) who repeat what they're told
Jesus Christ, dude. Just because someone works with their hands doesn't mean they're stupid. Good lord. Working in a professional kitchen is an incredibly demanding and difficult job. Don't be elitist to people who work way harder than you.
Especially since some of the dumbest and most intellectually coddled failsons I know went to, like, Yale lol. Or Harvard. A lot of YC startups are like Failson Continuation School. Plenty of people are smart, but a lot of them are just rich.
> On the other hand, vibe coding is curently churning out not just working software, but working businesses
Funny story, I'm evaluating SaaS ETL products and I found one that looked great. So I spent a couple hours testing out some tinkertoy examples with the idea to ask for budget if it worked.
I kept running into small stupid documentation problems and some incredibly stupid behavior in really basic shit (like, screwing up .env files) that no developer would do and then I realized it was all AI generated.
Did it work? Kinda! Mostly! Did it immediately make me put it in the "absolutely not" pile? Sure did.
If the code I can see is that sloppy and poorly reviewed, how bad is the code I can't see? I'm for sure not giving them our sensitive data.
If you think human code is bad, you should just work with better humans. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>Jesus Christ, dude. Just because someone works with their hands doesn't mean they're stupid. Good lord. Working in a professional kitchen is an incredibly demanding and difficult job. Don't be elitist to people who work way harder than you.
You're making a personal comment. It's orthoganol to the point. You said cooks learn the chemistry, he says they don't and they are too stupid too.
As bad as that statement is, it's true. Culinary arts as an occupation has statistically lower IQ than many other occupations. Additionally they don't actually learn the chemistry. You sidetracked off on a tirade talking about someones "elitest" character... but if you stick to the point, what you said was completely and utterly wrong.
>Funny story, I'm evaluating SaaS ETL products and I found one that looked great. So I spent a couple hours testing out some tinkertoy examples with the idea to ask for budget if it worked.
So you have a funny story, and then there are other smarter competent people saying the EXACT opposite of you. Does that ever make you pause and think? We've all seen evidence of AI fucking up. AI being stupid is a story so obvious that even the proponents of AI know AI can fuck up big time. But have you ever wondered what would make Ryan Dahl say something like that? Does what I'm saying even compute or are you just so stubbornly sure that your "funny story" invalidates everything?
> Culinary arts as an occupation has statistically lower IQ than many other occupations.
Citation very much needed lol. Again, don't be elitist about work you don't do and don't understand. Honestly, given the choice between between a random pool of kitchen staff and a bunch of people with BAYC twitter profiles, I'm taking the people who can pull off a busy Sunday brunch and I'm not thinking twice about it.
> Are you just so stubbornly sure that your "funny story" invalidates everything
It wasn't actually intended to be ha-ha funny, my guy, that's just a stock phrase.
And if you're asking, do I trust my own judgement to critically evaluate claims in my own industry? Yes. Yes, I do.
If you rely on other people telling you what's good and never think for yourself, you're always just going to be a follower. It's like you've never been on a single enterprise software sales call, jeez.
Below average iq for cooks. So you’re wrong. Almost everything you talk about is wildly wrong and off base.
> It wasn't actually intended to be ha-ha funny, my guy, that's just a stock phrase.
lol. Did it ever occur to you i was just using the same stock phrase to reference your “funny story”? Takes a certain iq to figure that out.
> And if you're asking, do I trust my own judgement to critically evaluate claims in my own industry? Yes. Yes, I do.
Good. A smart person though wouldn’t completely trust himself because he knows no one is infallible. So he evaluates his own judgements against other judgements. Especially judgements of others smarter than them. Are you a smart person? Maybe ask yourself that question.
> If you rely on other people telling you what's good and never think for yourself, you're always just going to be a follower. It's like you've never been on a single enterprise software sales call, jeez.
lol, never asked you that and it’s the wrong comparison my guy, my dude.
Read what I wrote. It’s a call to evaluate your own statement against others who say the opposite. It’s not a call to rely on what others say. Nor is it a call to just trust everything in your own brain. I asked you to evaluate your judgements and the judgements of others smarter than you as a whole.
You’re like the guy who thinks everyone is a salesman so you mistrust the entire world and you think everything you know and think is 100 percent true. I feel you’re scared of being wrong. Jeeze. Theres nothing to be scared of for being wrong, my dude.
A smart person would think: “hey half the population plus this guy smarter than me (Ryan dhal, who is one of many smart people that have nothing to sell) is saying AI writes all his code now. Maybe consider his perspective alongside mine?”
Cooks also repeatedly cook the exact same recipe designed by someone else over and over again. In our industry cooks are closest to the CPU executing machine code.
With the exception that cooks are actually less reliable (sometimes your steak comes out medium rare, sometimes well done). The human world is chaotic and unreliable, yet we wrangle it into a workable form. I think pretty soon we'll see that paralleled in the AI world, in the same ways we categorize and value human labor and businesses.
1. Chefs do learn the chemistry, at least enough to know why their techniques work.
2. Food scientist is a real job
3. The supply chain absolutely does have scientists involved in day to day operations lol.
A better analogy is just shoving the entire contents of the fridge into a pot, plastic containers and all, and assuming it'll be fine.