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If what you’re just concerned about people “baring themselves on camera” then they can continue to do that without emigrating to America and it would still affect your culture. The internet is global after all.

Also, it’s going to take more than a few thousand immigrants a year to affect the culture of a country as populous as America.





The internet is global, but having folks in our midst who make a living that way has more of an effect on our culture than if they are just on the internet.

Why?

I actually worked in the adult industry earlier in my career so have a better insight than most. and I can tell you that these models are just normal people like you an I. They aren’t interested in corrupting your children nor throwing wild sex parties in public spaces.


Just because they don't have ill intent doesn't mean the fact that some of the most highly paid members of our society being sex workers sends a message about what kind of skills and assets are valuable, and which aren't as valuable.

Unfortunately that ship has already sailed and immigration wasn’t the reason.

It turns out that American citizens can work in the adult industry too and it’s not just immigrants who are capable of earning money from getting naked on camera. ;)


Isn't that argument just a form of the sunk cost fallacy?

Only if you demonise the adult entertainment industry, which I wasn’t.

That's a non sequiter. You said the "ship has sailed", so we shouldn't attempt to reset norms.

> skills and assets

I saw what you did there :D


> They aren’t interested in corrupting your children nor throwing wild sex parties in public spaces.

RFK Jr., the current top health official in the US, is not interested in harming children either, and thinks he is doing a good public service: what is the reality though?

* https://arstechnica.com/health/2026/01/measles-continues-rag...

* https://arstechnica.com/health/2026/01/under-anti-vaccine-rf...

* https://arstechnica.com/health/2026/01/warning-about-bogus-a...

One's intentions and the results of one's actions can be two different things.

* https://acpeds.org/the-impact-of-pornography-on-children/

* https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/is-pornography-h...

* https://extension.usu.edu/relationships/research/effects-of-...

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_pornography


Last time I checked, “cam girls” don’t run the country. So I don’t think you can make a comparison there.

Plus the issues with JFK Jr are specific to him. It’s a bit of a stretch to imply that his view points are in any way related to his exposure pornography. That is unless “brain work” is some kind of euphemism I’m unaware of ;)

> One's intentions and the results of one's actions can be two different things.

Those articles mention just as many positives as negatives.

Porn isn’t inherently bad. It’s like alcohol, exercise, and other past times: moderation is the key.

Humans can get addicted to any kind of behaviour. The absolute worst thing you can do is make a topic a taboo because then you cannot keep people safe. This is as true for pornography as it is for weightlifting.

And frankly, hadn’t you got better things to do than worry about what consenting adults do in their private lives? It’s all a bit silly and prudish don’t you think?


i mean you said it yourself, the internet is global. those few thousand can have impressions of hundreds of millions. whether they do their cam shows abroad or local matters little. it's the inherent incentivization approved by a government that leads to deeper cultural erosion. if you're in a poor country with no access to education, and your only way into the US is porn, then that's what will ultimately win, rather than incentivizing higher education, etc. And before an argument is made that this will just be a way to get in and then those folks will go and seek PHDs and be productive members of society--i have a bridge to sell you.

If a person immigrates to the USA due to success with onlyfans, are they not productive members of society by virtue of having taxable & disposable income from the fruits of their labor? They don't need a PHD to be productive anymore than a soccer player, mentioned earlier. In reality we already have American citizens in the US paying for their college degrees via onlyfans.

Sex sells and everybody knows that. Why should the government use antiquated-at-best moral codes to discriminate against people who will increase the global influence of the country? Cultural exportation and exploitation have been key to US soft power for nearly a century.

crack also sells, amongst many other things that are inherently horrible for broad modern society.

> Why should the government use antiquated-at-best moral codes to discriminate against people who will increase the global influence of the country

this is a very loaded statement that assumes that everyone is in agreement that proliferating and rewarding cam models is some kind of inherent good. there's nothing antiquated morally with simply not rewarding it. i'm not stating to ban it outright. there's always use in it at the long tail of society


> i'm not stating to ban it outright. there's always use in it at the long tail of society

You might not have any interest in adult entertainment, but that doesn’t mean the industry only exists in the “long tail of society”.

The problem with social taboos is rarely a moral one, and usually more that people feel embarrassed or scared to be open and honest.

And usually that stems from others being unreasonably judgmental.


> The problem with social taboos is rarely a moral one, and usually more that people feel embarrassed or scared to be open and honest.

And usually that stems from others being unreasonably judgmental.

You're using broad sweeping statements to argue with a point that I'm not even making.

First off, you're only assuming I'm making this argument because I don't have an interest in adult entertainment. I just don't believe it needs to be shoved into every facet of society. The industry certainly _does_ exist in the long tail, because there's literally nothing interesting in it aside from the fact that people use it to get off and move on with their lives. It's like taking a dump. Everyone does it, but I don't need to sit around a dinner table discussing it as if it's some high brow art. And I certainly don't want people to be treated extra specially because they excel at taking dumps.


Nobody was suggesting that models should or would talk about adult content at the dinner table. What a weird comparison to make.

My point was literally that it’s a bigger industry than you give credit to because it’s a topic that isn’t generally discussed in polite conversation.

But I don’t think this is a topic we are likely to agree on. So perhaps it’s better to agree to disagree.


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