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> Good that Alan Dye is no longer at apple.

Yeah, but I doubt that would change much; the amount of damage done would be difficult to roll back. What do you think Apple is going to do for the next macOS: "Look we told you to design all these extra icons last year. Guess what, this year we want you to remove them."

I just can't imagine that happening. This is the fundamental thing that is wrong with this. They had the OSes in beta for a few months, barely listened to feedback, and now we're stuck with the damage. For how many more OS iterations?

I really wish they had at least macOS in a different cycle than iOS (and with the idiotic year version names, they've brazenly signed themselves up for the yearly schedules.) I really couldn't care less about what damage they do to iOS after iOS 7, but I still haven't upgraded to Tahoe and I won't do so until they roll this design back entirely...which I don't see happening.

Maybe I'm just pessimistic about Apple at this point but I feel like no amount of criticism is going to change their design trajectory now, unless it affects their bottom-line.





they'll slowly walk the changes back until the aesthetic is usable

in 8 years or so we'll probably get the next major overhaul

we're not stuck with the damage, except for the icons and such. the rest can be changed no problem. they could remove liquid glass tomorrow and make everything look like visionOS and the icons would still fit just fine

but they can't roll back to the previous design. which is a shame, because they poured in probably millions of man-hours to make it great. and the soulless app icons we now have won't ever match the 3d ish big sur icons that were filled to the brim with personality.

hell, there even were entire webpages and social media accts dedicated just to macOS icons. i regularly saw icon showcases on twitter with thousands of likes. not anymore :(


I hope with change in leadership correction of these things will be possible again. Not just Alan Dye, but Tim Cook is rumored to leave in the next year too.

Same here. I think my next upgrade cycle is going to be

- framework laptop or similar Linux machine

- graphene os phone

- ditch the apple watch, go back to a watch-watch




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