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Alan Dye ruined everything at Apple, no idea how he clung on for so long. You know he designed the horrible ios7 as well?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSzjcVZXolc

https://tjkelly.com/blog/ios-7-sucks/

And he also takes credit for the dynamic island. It is an assault on my senses to see everything constantly moving around on my screen.

I have been working with Macs since 1995, but this year is my first using Pixel with GrapheneOS, that is how done I am with Apple. Unfortunately I know the UI will not change for years and I just could not take it.



>Alan Dye ruined everything at Apple, no idea how he clung on for so long

Cook doesn't seem to a have any taste for product design, isn't he a logistics guy?


Yup. He is, by all accounts, a great supply-chain guy. eg. As far as I can tell, there were no significant breaks in Apple's supplies during COVID.

But he clearly falls afoul of Steve Jobs'warning about leaders with no taste.


This is even an understatement.

It’s not a stretch to say that Tim Cook created the whole Shenzhen microelectronics industry. The thousands of specialist component vendors and large integrators that assemble products trace to his instigation with Compaq and then Apple. The iPod, Macs, iPhone, copied the Swiss Watch model of vast redundant networks of component competetors working as an ecosystem to drive down costs.

This created the skill and machinery base that made it possible for other western design companies (such as Android vendors that were not Samsung or Japanese) to make clones of the iPhone quickly and easily. (Let’s be real, every smartphone is an iPhone 1 clone)

China owes a lot to this work.


Tim Cook needs to drop some acid. He has no creativity what so ever.


You'd think a supply chain guy would be able to get ahold of some psychedelics too...


You know he designed the horrible ios7 as well?

I don't think that's fully accurate, unless you have a link that confirms it? That Dye designed it, I mean, not that it was horrible...

Jony Ive was the head of design at that point (both hardware and UI). Wikipedia says Dye "contributed greatly to the design language of iOS 7" but Ive would have had final say. Certainly at the time as I recall it, iOS 7 was seen as Ive's baby.

Also, I'm not defending iOS 7, but I reckon its visual design was a lot more influential than it gets credit for. Think of those ubiquitous Prime bottles, with their bright saturated color gradients; the first place I remember seeing that style was iOS 7. I bet they picked that style for Prime because kids liked it, and kids liked it because kids like iPhones.

Edit to add: "bright saturated colors" goes back a long way to Fisher Price toys and the like, of course, but it's the gradients specifically that I think iOS 7 popularized.


I've heard rumors that part of why iOS 7 was so garish is because Dye's background was in product packaging so his team were doing design reviews on paper and didn't realize that the colors would look different on device due to CMYK vs RGB. Not sure if it's ever been confirmed but it would explain a lot.


I was in the room for a few design reviews for my part of iOS 7 (I was an engineer writing the new screens). Everything was done on a 90+ inch HDTV that we AirPlayed from our Macs or iPhones to for the room to view. Not printed, though the design studio walls were covered in printed explorations of variations of concepts, that is true.

Dye was the senior rep of the Design org present and commenting on all our software progress. I never once encountered Ive.


Thanks for the clarification! Out of curiosity, do you have any other insight into how/why iOS 7 turned out the way it did? What was the internal attitude towards it like?


I find it hard to believe that Dye would be so incompetent to not even know about CMYK vs RGB. How did he even get hired by Apple?


Dye was a symptom, not the cause. At a widespread organizational level, Apple just does not give a shit.


I will take the bottom bar of iOS7 Safari any day over the wretched mess that it is now.


Is it just me, or does answering a Facetime call now require pressing buttons at the opposite top and bottom corners of the screen?

How does that benefit anyone?


Is he the one responsible for the 2016 MBP? It took Apple like 6 years to fix everything about that


Thank god he left for Meta


Really? Same guy? OUFF. What a track record...




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