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Remember when invading Russian territory was a red line that could cause a nuclear retaliation? And then Ukraine went into Russia and Russia responded with a pretty bog standard conventional force?

Russia isn't gonna fling nukes if the West doesn't first. Putin and co have no interest in Moscow being glassed.



> And then Ukraine went into Russia and Russia responded with a pretty bog standard conventional force?

Standard North Koreans?

Your point stands but Russia is happy to drag in anyone it can. The US and EU letting Ukraine bleed out is shameful.


But Ukraine isn’t NATO.

Red line still pretty intact.


The stated Russian doctrine doesn't really explicitly call for a nuclear response to a naval conflict in the gulf of Finland.


I’m not following.




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