This is crazy logic. It leaves no one with the ability to critique another country when it abuses its citizens.

It really is crazy. A lot of people here seem to miss the relative nature of countries' behavior and think they're all as bad as each other when the difference is huge.

Especially when it comes to China and Russia, people seem to think they're about as bad as the West when nothing could be further from the truth.

Maybe thats due to more people from the hard right haunting this place, or the general shift of the tech crowd to the right. I'm not sure what it is exactly.

Really? In my perception, the "US is evil so it can't criticize anyone else" more often came from the left.

I agree, I should have included the hard left which tend to be apologists for China and Russia.

No, that's not the right takeaway, at least for me. For me it means that even if a country isn't perfect, doesn't automatically mean they can't be against others doing harm.

I'm sorry, but "calling out apparent injustice" is not comparable to "literally throwing the first rock to stone someone to death".

That quote gets bent very far out of context. You could use it to justify any inaction under that interpretation, on the theory that you are not qualified to take it simply due to being imperfect.

> rock to stone someone to death

Not sure where you get this from?

For me it means even "evil" people/countries can raise valid points, nothing more, nothing less.

That phrase originated from a story in which a lapsed carpenter stopped an execution.

Christ, we need more woodworking classes for kids on the tech path.

If you wanted to reference the saying about people living in glass houses throwing stones, you should have referenced that one rather than a different quote about stones. They're not equivalent.

> If you wanted to reference the saying about people living in glass houses throwing stones

Well, I didn't, I referenced exactly what I wanted to reference. It's OK to go back into the cave now.

In fact they are referencing the phrase, of much later origin, "those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".

embedding-shape is quoting Jesus, who was in fact literally referring to killing people by throwing stones. (And, in fact, was talking to a mob that was literally about to do exactly that.)

I'm thoroughly familiar with Jesus's words. By "they" I was referring to demarq, who I believe embedding-shape was misinterpreting.

Ah, I see.