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one set of political extremes has 3x the budget of the us marines and is a paramilitary that operates above the law. the other political extreme are some skinny vegan teenagers in black clothes. no no both sides.


I think you vastly underestimate what "skinny vegan teenagers in black clothes" are capable of to an almost comically ignorant level. Not only is it a complete misrepresentation of the average "antifa-er" it also mischaracterizes them (perhaps deliberately) as an incapable force.

You would probably benefit from reading about the link between prominent activists in these circles, and for example, the sandanistas and other violent socialist/communist groups. Or the link to the USSR via the DDR where antifa as we know it came to be. The black bloc is a clear and present danger to the citizenry in the same respect as the paramilitary you refer to.


> Or the link to the USSR via the DDR where antifa as we know it came to be.

The USSR, which ceased to exist in 1991, somehow created the antifa movement of the 2000s? Wow, they sure were powerful!


I think neither of it goes back far enough.

Not sure how it is in the US, but antifascist groups in Europe, including the term "Antifa" are far older. The origins go back into the 1920s to Marxist and Communist groups that were fighting the then-fledging fascist movements in Italy and Weimar Germany. (Also heavily influenced by the Spanish Civil War)

Later in the 70s, left-wing groups who saw themselves as part of the civil-rights movement adopted the name to fight against neo-nazis and old nazis that were still in power after the war (often with plenty of help by conservative circles in Europe and the US). Many of those groups saw themselves as Marxists and some where sympathizing with the Soviet Union, or might even have received support from there. But the "idea" was their own - or, if anything - came from the US, through the civil rights movement.

I don't know much about the modern Antifa groups in the US, but I imagine they, in turn, got "inspired" by the groups from the 70s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(Germany)




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