I mean, what is this stuff you're making up about the US and Vietnam being allies? Is that your head canon? What does Vietnam do as a part of this alliance?
If you think those two countries were ever allies in any serious military or political sense you're deluded. The US is Vietnam's biggest customer and they changed the terms under which they're willing to buy stuff, that's all.
You also better believe that when tensions flare up between Vietnam and China again, Vietnam will be begging the US for help.
On a personal level I am American and the most annoying thing about living in Southeast Asia quite frankly is how much people here seem to think they deserve my money in exchange for selling me low quality shit I don't need or want. You can't have my money. Go away. We can end the relationship and I will be perfectly happy without you. It's amazing how this parallels foreign relations.
> What does Vietnam do as a part of this alliance?
Buys American arms, lets US naval assets use its ports (including aircraft carriers), probably a lot of intelligence cooperation we're not aware of.
> You also better believe that when tensions flare up between Vietnam and China again, Vietnam will be begging the US for help.
The more likely scenario is that the US comes begging Vietnam for help in some future conflict because China shut down the South China Sea as part of a blockade of Taiwan, and used missiles to render all US airbases in the region unusable.
The point was not that they are allies. The point was that USA is very unreliable ally. They will promise things, take away what they want and won't deliver. It is an ally that sees allies as suckers and treats them badly.
Basically, the point was that aspiring to be USA ally is not worth the effort.
This is all a lot of smoke but no fire. There is no alliance and never will be beyond what is directly and immediately expedient. These countries would like to sell things to the US, aka they want it to run a trade deficit with them. They also would like the US to lend them military aid if they get into violent trouble with their neighbor. What does the US get out of this? What is the point? Who cares if they don't think America's a good ally? They're going to keep on marketing their shit to America, asking America for military support, and offering not much in return either way. As noted, the countries under discussion generally dislike each other a lot more than they dislike this particular US President who will be gone in 3 years anyway. All smoke. No fire. They will do nothing except agree to the tariffs, because there is nothing for them to do.
I think Trump should treat actual allies, like Japan or Canada, better. But India, Vietnam and China? Fuck em. Nothing against them particularly, in fact I have professional relationships with some good people in all three of those countries. But they are not allies and were never going to be, they were always just vendors. If they decide they don't like us and don't want to take our money (they won't decide this), fine. We can spend it elsewhere.
I have to second another reply with "contain your fox news in public please."
What did the US get from their global hegemony? (Such a tragedy that mostly US-americans ask this, imo.)
They got eg. the petro dollar. Any other nation is buying/selling in dollars, provided by the US. This demand allowed you to amass your gigantic state debt to fund your military which enabled even more hegemony, like brutally messing up latin america with lasting consequences you can still see today, if fox news agrees on it ofc.
Remember when trump chickend out from his global tarifs, because "the markets got the yippies"? Part of that was a coordinated response of (former) allies to sell their US bonds, which, if continued, could have seriously hurt the US household by making new debt significantly more expensive for the US.
This is what you get from it! Cheap debt in a currency you controll! No other country has this privilege!
And in exchange for your fiat money you can devalue as you like, you get goods you wont produce yourself and you can sustain a massive military budget.
I hope trump continues his clueless destructive path and that some MAGA sweat shoppers learn from it (unlikely).
It kinda sounds like you made a lot of stuff or rather, eaten fox news entirely.
> They also would like the US to lend them military aid if they get into violent trouble with their neighbor.
Nah, USA promised millitary aid, but invariably just takes away while making the promis and then do not deliver.
>I think Trump should treat actual allies, like Japan or Canada, better.
Well, he does not. Actually, he treats them worst then he treats China, India, Vietnam, Russia.
> But India, Vietnam and China?
Note that the actual topic is 'graemep' thinking USA is better ally then China. And people telling him that nope, USA looks like worst less reliable ally then China or India.
If you think those two countries were ever allies in any serious military or political sense you're deluded. The US is Vietnam's biggest customer and they changed the terms under which they're willing to buy stuff, that's all.
You also better believe that when tensions flare up between Vietnam and China again, Vietnam will be begging the US for help.
On a personal level I am American and the most annoying thing about living in Southeast Asia quite frankly is how much people here seem to think they deserve my money in exchange for selling me low quality shit I don't need or want. You can't have my money. Go away. We can end the relationship and I will be perfectly happy without you. It's amazing how this parallels foreign relations.