Some people’s conception of “normal people” is people on the bus or train.

Some people’s conception of “normal people” is people at a church ice cream social.

Different perspectives, I think.

Having grown up around the world and going to a few international schools I came to realise that "normal" is just what the people around you do (well "in public" is probably a good effective limit).

Yes, it’s your bubble. There are American states still charging people over marijuana. Having grown up Christian I personally know people in their 30s who view psychedelic and heroin users similarly. Those people would have the opposite view of you.

Years back, my friend’s parents asked me to stage an intervention for him after they found out he regularly took LSD. He was 19 at the time.

Growing up my friend’s dad was a conservative christian and a frequent caller into conservative talk radio shows. There was a state referendum to legalize marijuana, so I asked what he thought. “Of course it should be legal. It says right there in Genesis—God said: I give you every herb bearing seed upon the Earth. What could be more clear-cut than that?”

> hmm so.. "I give you every herb bearing seed upon the Earth" is followed by "to eat/stuff into nose"?

It's not always the best use, but that's definitely allowed. It's one of the main uses of herbs.

> with this stupidity, maybe you should try eating list of 20 deadly plants and see how it goes?

If you're eating an amount that doesn't hurt anyone, what's the problem?

And the reason to possibly intervene would be someone stockpiling dangerous amounts. Not for enjoying plants wrong.

> maybe you should try eating your car?

It would be ridiculous to make that illegal, wouldn't it?

The words are written in the first chapter of the first book.

Clearly God did not mean “use” as “in turn into rope and strangle other people” (violating other commandments) but nowhere does God say herbs can’t be used for medicine or wine can’t be used for its intoxicating effects, (within some reasonable degree of moderation.)

Been a while since I've read Genesis but I don't recall God putting any terms and conditions on it

All of the Bible is T&C’s. God’s goal was to make it longer than Apple’s but he failed. (Ironically Apple was the one fruit Adam and Eve weren’t supposed to eat.)

Tells you to eat every planet, creates plants that are fatally poisonous to humans.

That God fella sure is strange.

Nah he just created all the plants/fruits/etc. and then gave them to Adam and Eve without an instruction manual. Never told them to eat anything in particular. I think it was still a nice gesture.

I live in a Republican state where marijuana is illegal

Farm bill and delta-8 really flipped that whole table though

Yeah, but our legislature banned that too

Texas? :(

North Dakota

My friend's "Christian" parents both eat Oxycontin like candy but think anything THC related is evil and kicked one of their sons out of the house at 15 years old because they found out he ate a THC gummy. When confronted they said their drug use is moral because they have prescriptions but weed is illegal and therefore satanic. I wish I was there to point out kicking their teenage son out on the streets was also illegal.

This mindset hard to even wrap my mind around. Total nonsense.

Eh, I’m pretty open-minded to this stuff, but I would also want to stage an intervention if my 19-year-old was regularly taking LSD.

Well, to be pendantic, you can't "regularly" (depending on your definition) consume LSD or any psychedelic.

The 5HT2A tolerance is acute such that you need exponential dosing on consecutive days to achieve equivalent effects.

Some psychedelics like NBOMe are such strong agonists the tolerance duration is 1-2 weeks.

For "standard" psychedelics it's closer to 3-4 days.

Even at the height of my psychedelic-head phase I was using twice a week, and not by choice.

Twice a week for a drug that lasts ~12 hours is definitely “regularly”

I also dosed twice a week for a few months in my early 20s