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Does screw up as you use it mean knowingly and intentionally breaking the law, or mean it was accidental and unintentional?

It might be a mistake to beat someone bloody, but it isn't an accident.



I'm not sure what you're asking.

Let's say I beat someone bloody. We can play through several scenarios:

- Someone broke into my house, and I was fearful for my life

- Plain clothes police broke into my house, and I was fearful for my life

Let's say a police officer did so:

- Someone was a gang member, and the police officer did so in self-defense

- Ditto, based on mistaken beliefs

A lot of the protections in place for police and judges are based on the fact that mistakes like these happen. In general, people aren't individually liable for mistakes make in their official capacity as a government employee, unless they cross very extreme lines. They might get fired, but not prosecuted.

There are exceptions (such as handling of classified materials), but as a guideline, if a police officer beats someone bloody, but has good reason to believe they were a criminal and that this was the least force they could use to keep themselves safe, they're protected even if they're wrong.


Im talking about intent: knowingly and intentionally breaking the law.

I understand that honest mistakes happen due to inaccurate information, understand, ect.

- e.g. you thought a cop was a burglar.

These are different from poor and regrettable choices, also sometimes referred to as "mistakes".

  - I beat my wife because I caught them cheating. 
There may be an interpretation of this situation where judge did not understand their situation and actions, but I don't find it very probable. It seems clear that they were trying to help the target of a legal warrant evade law enforcement apprehension, and knew exactly what they were doing.


People do dumb things in stressful situations. To your "I beat my wife because I caught them cheating" example, there's a world of difference between:

1) I walked in. An argument and a fight ensued.

2) I found out about it, went of and thought, and made the choice.

There's a hierarchy, including:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provocation_(law) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense

I find it entirely probable that the judge didn't know or understand, in the moment, their situation and the implications of their actions. Indeed, I will go one step further. If ICE does illegal things 100 times, then it's reasonable to expect an unreasonable reaction maybe 10% of the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause

If I were a judge, and someone came into court with an "administrative warrant," I might not want them disturbing my courthouse either. I might want parties to feel safe there, and be concerned about miscarriages of justice if parties are scared to show up.


People do dumb things in stressful situations. To your "I beat my wife because I caught them cheating" example, there's a world of difference between:

1) I walked in. An argument and a fight ensued.

2) I found out about it, went of and thought, and made the choice.

There's a hierarchy, including:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provocation_(law)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense

I find it entirely probable that the judge didn't know or understand, in the moment, their situation and the implications of their actions. Indeed, I will go one step further. If ICE does illegal things 100 times, then it's reasonable to expect an unreasonable reaction maybe 10% of the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause

If I were a judge, and someone came into court with an "administrative warrant," I might not want them disturbing my courthouse either. I might want parties to feel safe there, and be concerned about miscarriages of justice if parties are scared to show up.

The trick here is to have policies ahead-of-time, and especially, to let judges know about this sort of thing ahead-of-time. If police show up at my door, I might make a mistake. If they let me know ahead of time, and I have time to think, I hopefully won't.




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