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> might as well assert your rights

I wonder what could happen to citizens who weren’t born in the US

Given what we’ve seen recently. Could it be possible they would refer these people to the state department to revoke their citizenships?



As things currently stand, this wouldn't qualify for denaturalization. Even the Trump proposals have been to do it for fraudulently obtaining citizenship (e.g. lying about a criminal record), not general crimes, and certainly not for non-crimes like annoying CBP.

But next week it could all be different.


I expect the first denaturalization case over political speech to be only a matter of time--perhaps weeks at this rate?


> fraudulently obtaining citizenship

It seems like they are claiming that “not saying you intended to protest” is essentially lying on the initial visa application, thus fraud and grounds for revocation of residence and deportation

So, if CBP confiscated someone’s laptop or phone (because they don’t want to unlock it), then break into it, and find social media posts against genocide, and/or against the Trump administration… given how they’ve acted, who knows what they’d do


I'm deeply displeased with their treatment of legal residents here, but denaturalizing a citizen is about a million times more severe than deporting a legal resident alien. The executive has pretty much unlimited authority to decide which non-citizens are allowed to enter or stay within the country, and has for a long time, whereas that's not the case with denaturalization.


Not sure about denaturalization, but this is getting pretty extreme already (USCIS, effective immediately, is screening immigrants for criticism of Israel):

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnitedNations/comments/1jw8gyv/all_...


It is, but this is still far less severe than denaturalizing a citizen. The executive has pretty much total discretion over which non-citizens they allow into the country. That power isn't anything new, it just wasn't abused like this before. Denaturalization for anything besides fraudulently obtaining citizenship would be a serious change, not just applying existing power in ugly ways.


Does knowingly blowing up a citizen with a drone count as denaturalization?


Case in point. People are still talking about that one guy more than all the other victims combined.




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