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They are both cybercrime. I'm not disagreeing with that. But if you sabotage a bombmakers tools and they blow their own household up instead of other innocent people, is it the same thing?

Let's be very specific: "if they actually used it as part of a DDoS.". This wasn't embedded in warez or cracking tools, it was in botnet controllers, and ran when someone had pulled the trigger to execute an attack.



What if the bomb maker lives in a shared house with innocent people, or even in their parents basement?

Thats a more relevent analogy here, as probably most of those script kiddies were using the family PC which had other other innocent peoples important stuff on.


One home is worth less than dozens of homes that bomb maker can damage. The same is true for script kiddies.


you are saying it was "botnet controllers" all the op said was "ddos tool on 4chan" - LOIC wasn't a "ddos" tool. it was a DoS tool. sub7 wasn't a ddos tool. BO wasn't a ddos tool. butttrumpet wasn't a ddos tool.

A "botnet controller" requires a botnet. The OP made malware. A program, when run, that would delete your files without permission.

merely having the thought of doing something illegal isn't illegal and afaik the catholics have the only guidelines on how to deal with illegal thoughts, and "delete all the files on their hard disk or otherwise corrupt their system" wasn't in the canon that i saw.


I quote:

"Years ago when DDoS tools were being distributed on 4chan I fixed a bug in one of them and redistributed it there"

"if they actually used it as part of a DDoS"

You are incorrect, they said it was a DDoS tool. You are incorrect about "merely having the thought", it required executing an attack. FAFO. Again, this is part of the personal evolution of tons of security professionals who longer do juvenile stupid shit. Or at least learned how to do so in a hardened sandbox vm.




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