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> More like I need to be rich to move to where my friends are

Like most folks, we live where we can. Being able to pick a spot on a map has never been a possibility.

It's been tighter than that tho. In 2021 we beat loooong odds to find any housing and insane odds to score a decent place that fit all of us. People with money in the bank were going homeless.



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> i dont think finding a place in city like SF should be considered long odds lol

To rent or to buy? Because those are vastly different things in today’s economy. Rent, sure - you can find one. Buying? You need 250K+ saved and jobs that lets you pay 8K/mo for at least 10 years.

But I do agree that people in areas with high RE who own a home and two cars shouldn’t be included in the poor category. That’s easily 1M in assets.


> what were the long odds please do tell

These were the calculable factors for this area, in mid 2021.

Each rental listing had ~400 unique applicants per day. For total number of rentals, a generous est is ~100 new listings per month in the 3 counties we searched. In our 4 mo of searching (of a 6mo window) I found 2 good fits but 1 was at the extreme end of affordability.

For a decade of complex reasons (inc. extreme poverty, responsible spending and unforeseen changes in the rental market) I had a ~0 credit rating. That rules out most/all software managed rentals - over 95% from what I can glean.

The ad for the rental we scored inc a crayon layout on lined paper. It was posted for 2 hrs and received >50 applicants. We scored it by offering 6mos up front plus a 2x sec dep. Having that much money on hand followed another set of timely and unlikely circumstances.

The long odds, they are whatever all the above maths out to.


> eugenics, poisoning, dictatorships, genocide, identity theft, torture, blackmail while moving.

No.

> simply wanting to live in a specific area?

Needing to live where existing jobs/clients were, for our multi-income household. Moving anywhere else at all would have stranded us without reasonable prospects.




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