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Are they built better now? I've bought a lot of stuff from them in the past and while their support is great and their pre-built desktops are fantastic, their laptops were just rebranded Clevo trash.


I really wish that System76 would offer a Framework based option... would definitely pay a bit of a premium for Pop OS support on Framework hardware. Those two companies are just screaming for a teamup IMO.


No, still Clevo. Although the CEO said they are currently designing a custom laptop chassis in house. Probably still a minimum 2 years away, but at least they are working on it.


They don't exclusively use Clevo and they're now leveraging their business relationships to have designs guided by System76 priorities.

There's been no updates on the Virgo project for about a year. I hope they're able to get it to market, but it seems a ways off.


They are not. I have one and the trackpad sucks, and it has a USB C port which charges the laptop EXCEPT when it is fully dead..


Don't waste your time. 1920x1080p @60hz in 2024...


This is such an elitist attitude, and I'd like to see less of it.

The vast majority of users aren't going to be bothered by those screen specs. For many coming from low-end hardware, it's actually an upgrade. Most work won't be significantly impacted by increasing the refresh rate, and while better resolution can be helpful if you keep multiple windows on the screen, most programs still feel tailored to 1920x1080 screens. Office workers writing emails, reports, purchase orders, and basic spreadsheets aren't likely to notice a better refresh rate and they're more likely to get a positive impact from turning a monitor vertical to fit more of a page on their screens.

Don't get me wrong, I use two 2560x1440p monitors at 144Hz at home, but I honestly get just as much work done on my dual 1080p 60Hz monitors at my desk at work. Saying that a laptop with 1080p@60hz is a waste is elitist and unnecessary in my opinion.


This is all I ever hear from the linux crowd. “Demand less.” Gets really old.


My first laptop in 7th grade was 1366x768(@60?) and it's what got me into the whole industry. I still use 1920x1080@60 as my daily driver work laptop and it's fine. If I need bigger screens / higher refresh rate I have my desktop.


I have the Pangolin which is 144hz, but good luck hitting that on the AMD 780m. Also the touchpad and charging sucks.

Other than that I have had some good gaming experiences but the drawbacks are too much for me to recommend.




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