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Does paying with Apple Cash (using Apple Pay) avoid this tracking/data reporting? If so, it's probably worth the 2% hit to maintain cash-like privacy. But if the data gets hoovered up the same, no point.


No. Despite the name, it's really just a regular Visa debit card, issued by Green Dot Bank.


Dang, super disappointing. Hope Apple changes things up so that we can transact digitally without leaving a trail.


I also really hope that somebody steps up and fills the gap that the widespread disappearance of cash has left in terms of payments privacy and resiliency.

While Apple would be a great candidate from a technical point of view (unlike many other manufacturers, they exclusively control both the smartcard chip/"Secure Element" and the Secure Enclave in all of their devices, which would both be good candidate technologies for P2P digital cash that works without an internet connection), I don't see it happening.

Why would they pick a fight with banks, governments, and payment networks, when they can just continue in their position as part of that ecosystem?

Also, even as an Apple user I would find it quite concerning if we'd replace cash with a proprietary technology. And I don't exactly see Apple participating in or even driving the development of a new, open standard, unless possibly forced by a regulator.


I agree it's not super likely, unfortunately.

> Also, even as an Apple user I would find it quite concerning if we'd replace cash with a proprietary technology.

I'm not saying we should replace cash, just that it would be nice if a cash-like option were available for digital payments.




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