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> Yeah, we did.

No we did not.

> The concept of "mine" appears very early in children.

The concept of "mine" also exists in socialism. How have you come to the conclusion that when a child says "mine" that it is referring to the capitalist notion of private property?

> Nobody has ever managed to indoctrinate people into communal behavior.

Are you denying the existence of families now? Humans evolved and spread in small familial groups which practiced communal behavior.

> Even the die hard communists in the USSR still participated in the black market - this was tolerated because even the elites used it.

What point are you trying to make whit this?

> It turns out that human nature is not very malleable.

If it wasn't malleable we wouldn't have capitalism as evidenced by early human history. While you at it why don't you tell us what human nature is, because there doesn't seem to be any consensus on it and you seem so confident in using it that you must have a ready definition of it.



> The concept of "mine" also exists in socialism.

Nope, even your shoes officially belong to the collective. I was told this by a former subject of the USSR.

> family

As I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, children are not fully formed humans, and have only a subset of adult rights. Families have evolved to deal with this issue. Extending the family to society does not work.

> why don't you tell us what human nature is

Two excellent books on the topic:

"The Red Queen: Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature" by Matt Ridley https://www.amazon.com/Red-Queen-Evolution-Human-Nature/dp/0...

"Noble Savages" by Napoleon Chagnon https://www.amazon.com/Noble-Savages-Dangerous-Yanomamo-Anth...

I can sum it up with human nature is our evolved behavior, rather than learned behavior.




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