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I don’t think we will ever have any self driving tech that inter mingles with non self driving cars that will result in zero deaths.

While sad, mile for mile FSD is better than humans.



How the heck did you reach the conclusion that the current state of FSD is safer than a human driver. The Tesla Community FSD tracker has it at 157 city miles per disengagement at the moment. The people collecting this data are the Tesla enthusiasts as well.

It has a very long way to go before it is better than a human. We won’t know the true stats until it is allowed to operate without supervision.

Source: https://www.teslafsdtracker.com/Main


FSD only drives in a subset of conditions humans drive in so the comparison is invalid.


> While sad, mile for mile FSD is better than humans.

For this statement to be correct, we’d need to have full disclosure of all travel using FSD at any point, accidents which happened anytime FSD was active or had been recently deactivated (for example, that guy who fell asleep counts even if FSD deactivated a minute before the vehicle crashed), and be able to compare that to the same trips driven by human drivers. You especially need to avoid including incidents in the human stats which are in conditions where FSD would do even worse.


This notion is ridiculous to me everytime I hear it. How can we objectively measure that its safer? It feels way too easy to miss an externality and just chalk that up to teslas mile per mile being safer on a technicality




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