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It's a great reminder, though, that relying on Google to be able to discern a sensitive situation isn't adequate. Even if Google was perfect, they can't read minds.

Best practice still has to remain to turn off your phone, or at least put it in airplane mode, before you leave the house if you need more privacy.



It’s also a great reminder that this data is imprecise and shouldn’t be relied on for anything important, by anyone.


I believe even in airplane mode it’s been shown that your phone will still send general location data back to your carrier once back online but I don’t recall specifics


How would it collect any location data in airplane mode: WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, and related, should all be turned off. NFC too I presume. I doubt readings from vibration (step counting), barometer, compass, if your device takes such readings, are going to be useful enough on their own to provide a good location fix.

Maybe if you take a photo of something recognisable they could log your location at that point if the photo is automatically tagged when you connect later. Though even if that is the case, I expect the OP wasn't taking pictures of any landmarks during a journey to/from the abortion clinic.


GPS is receiving data, not sending data. My experience is that even in airplane mode I can still get my latlong and compass position.

I assume my phone just logs the location based on time and then submits when airplane mode is off.


https://www.nitrokey.com/news/2023/smartphones-popular-qualc...

https://old.reddit.com/r/LineageOS/comments/gdu8l4/aeroplane...

I believe the premise is that airplane mode disconnects the OS from the modem, but it doesn't necessarily turn the modem itself off. It's still hitting cell towers and phoning back to Qualcomm. If Qualcomm has this information, three letter agencies have this information.


Accelerometer and gyroscope are enough to do a pretty decent mapping of indoor locations without GPS and the like. Its all differential, so the longer it goes without a point of reference the lower the confidence is, but its possible.


Gps is not completely turned off, nor is wifi. Just YOUR access to them. Both can pinpoint position.


This is possible, yes, and is why I suggest that turning your phone off is preferable to using airplane mode.

Best of all is, of course, leaving your phone at home. But that seems to be well beyond most people's abilities these days.


Larry's endgame for Google Search was a brain-embedded knowledge engine. Like, literally reading minds to answer questions.




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