> with so much of my time in the matrix world, i somewhat xpected to start hearing anouncements of alternatives to email.
I presume you're suggesting a new alternative to email rather than Matrix being itself an alternative (which isn't its intent).
The thing about email is it's a set of related protocols - if you want a modern alternative you need to look at those protocols & address legacy problems with them, replacing the ones that need replacing. That's what JMAP is. What you're asking for is JMAP.
JMAP probably isn't perfect, but nothing is & there's no better alternatives I know of. And one major provider using it = more adoption than any other modern alternatives.
It’s universally supported and battle-tested. We have great servers and clients for it.
It’s not perfect, but it’s also not fundamentally flawed in any way that might put the future of e-mail at risk.
Bolting HTTP and JSON onto e-mail via JMAP — and requiring that everyone implement an entirely new, larger protocol stack — is not an obvious value proposition.
So the definition of the word "alternative" in this instance is "something other than IMAP" - the argument for JMAP is not competing with IMAP, there's a pre-determined assumption that we're already unhappy with IMAP, hence the search for an "alternative".
It sounds like you disagree fundamentally with moving on from IMAP in the first place, which is fair enough. That's not a debate I'm getting into here: all I'm saying is IFF we are moving on from IMAP, JMAP looks like the best alternative.
> I presume you're suggesting a new alternative to email rather than Matrix being itself an alternative (which isn't its intent)...
Yes, the intent of my statement was hoping for an alternative to email, and i did not mean to imply that matrix would be the thing that would replace email. Both things seek to achieve different things. and even in some rare overlappiny use-cases, i would say that at this time matrix does not universally replace email.
What i should have stated was that with such attention and (at least in some circles) excitement around newer areas like matrix...That maybe traditional email software devs might have - by now - looked into newer alternatives to email. With apologies to email software devs.
And, yep, I had heard of JMAP some time ago....and i figured by now that it would be far more popular than it is, and that it would have been implemented by many more entities by now. Oh well.
I presume you're suggesting a new alternative to email rather than Matrix being itself an alternative (which isn't its intent).
The thing about email is it's a set of related protocols - if you want a modern alternative you need to look at those protocols & address legacy problems with them, replacing the ones that need replacing. That's what JMAP is. What you're asking for is JMAP.
JMAP probably isn't perfect, but nothing is & there's no better alternatives I know of. And one major provider using it = more adoption than any other modern alternatives.