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>A man who is financially autonomous, practices basic hygiene and grooming, wears tasteful clothing, and approaches women with respect and manners has nothing to worry about... one interesting hobby...

Congratulations, you've just described 95% of men who are gainfully employed in fairly technical white collar sectors of the economy.

You're getting down-voted because they are probably the single biggest demographic on HN and their experience doesn't match what your alleging it to be.



A lot of people are in denial of basic genetic factors and keep trying to intellectualize mating practices. I found that listening to the "Beat Your Genes" podcast the most helpful out of the resources available.

Women (on average, obviously individuals are different) are attracted to status vastly more than anything else. All the other "requirements" are basically seen as proxies for status (job, income, character, etc).

IT is still seen societally as medium to low status, so people in the industry are going to struggle. I think the best thing you as an individual can do is get a higher-status hobby (i.e. not video gaming, but something like acting or guitar, etc).

I also find that America is completely in denial about the status game, where as other countries are more honest about it (i.e. people will actually tell you)


>I also find that America is completely in denial about the status game, where as other countries are more honest about it (i.e. people will actually tell you)

I've found that IT has much higher status in other countries than it does in America. American women want men who are lawyers (or politicians), doctors, or business executives, not engineers or IT people. In other countries, women don't all have an automatic stigma against IT, because they know it pays well.




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