Just to point out that "ZERO react/JS nonsense" is based on looking down on mainstream languages even after they've improved and even though the platforms use them.
I mean... It's hard to find anyone who prefers Java to Kotlin for Android development. I know people who still have Java One backpack, and they would rather write Kotlin over Java any day.
JavaScript...I didn't mind how quirky it is when it was SSR + a little jQuery for interactivity. nodejs, asset pipelines like webpack, React make me want to barf. They haven't improved at all.
LiveView looks very interesting and I wish Phoenix/Elixir was an option for me.
I've used them enough to have my own informed opinion on the languages, frameworks and mentality in the ecosystems I talk about. We're both right -- because we both are sharing our opinions.
You realize that js and java are the native languages for the web and Android, right?