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> could you tell that you're not in the 80s?

Well yes, because we have solar panels and heat pumps and battery powered power tools and vacuum cleaners and dishwashers and microwave ovens and smart lights and ...

You wouldn't expect walls and carpets to change.



Not to mention:

Ugly (but very bright and power efficient, and cooler) LED lighting. Bright blue power LEDs on everything. Less fluorescent, minimal incandescent lighting.

Everyone is working at home.

Few books, no newspapers or print magazines, no typewriters, maybe even no wired telephone.

The post office only delivers packages and "junk mail."

No "long distance" phone charges.

No ash trays.

New/improved appliances: air fryers, instant pot/automated pressure/multifunction cookers, high-efficiency washing machines, etc.. Fewer toaster ovens and gas ranges or ovens.

Mandatory smoke alarms and carbon monoxide alarms.

Lower power usage for most appliances.

No bottle returns. Much more "recycling" and industrial compost.

No large stereo systems, AM/FM radio, cassette players, or boom boxes. Fewer (and poorer quality) record players.

Home delivery of everything via amazon, grocery delivery, restaurant food delivery, etc.. UPS, FedEx and Amazon deliver many more packages than the USPS.

Fewer people actually own their houses.

Student loan debt. More monthly bills in general.


> vacuum cleaners

mainstream since at least the 1950s

> dishwashers

1970s

> microwave ovens

available but fairly expensive in the 80s, ubiquitous in the 90s


The point was vacuums etc have gotten a lot better over time.

Electric motors are noticeably lighter, more powerful, and more energy efficient today. Yes vacuums in the 1980’s worked but they where significantly heavier, louder, and far more power hungry not to mention more expensive. It might not seem like much but I remember the exhaust from the family vacuum being noticeably warm. It’s even more noticeable with cordless vacuums which got not just better motors but vastly better batteries as well.

Often it’s the parts you don’t notice that make a world of difference. The finger saver shutoff on a modern saw might not seem like much, but those things really make a difference in peoples lives.


The Dyson bagless/root cyclonic vacuum design completely took over.

"Hoovering" really became dysoning.


I don't think that was the point. The OP said "we have [them]", not "they've gotten better".

I agree, Dyson is quite a bit better than the vacuum my parents had (though central vac was pretty damn good).

Dishwashers are quieter, though not that different. Microwaves seem about the same.


Dishwashers use a fraction of the water they used to. It is more water and power efficient to use a dishwasher then to wash dishes by hand. [1]

In all these responses what I'm noticing is people missing the vast gains in efficiency from our appliances over the last few decades: everything we have gives more, and uses less.

[1] https://www.aceee.org/files/proceedings/2008/data/papers/1_1...


On the other side the water and energy use has been trade off for time use. Living in country with plenty of fresh water I might prefer to waste some for faster cycle time. So in sense things have actually gotten worse.


It’s not really about water use. Dishwashers require very hot water, so less water directly translates into dramatically less energy use.


Fair enough, though convection microwaves are a real improvement. Traditional microwaves meanwhile cost about 1/10th as much as an 80’s microwave which is noticeable in it’s own way.


> finger saver shutoff

Probably a feature I wouldn't want to give up.


>> vacuum cleaners >mainstream since at least the 1950s

Canister vacuums date to the 1910s and were probably mainstream by the 1930s (wasn't Herbert Hoover mocked by connecting him to Hoover Vacuums?)

Battery powered vacuums are ubiquitous now and were not in the 1980s (for example the first Dirt Devil model was corded.)


> mainstream since at least the 1950s

Of course. What about battery powered vacuum cleaners?


Hmm, in the US anyway they started to get inexpensive by 1980 or so, same as VCRs.


Flooring has changed too. Carpets are better looking and more resilient. Click vinyl is stronger, has good texture, easier to install, and is super durable.


> You wouldn't expect walls and carpets to change

Yes, but even there we're not using flammable polystyrene ceiling tiles, nor asbestos floor tiles and asbestos glue any more.


Window insulation and heating/cooling efficiency are often greatly improved as well.

Also air conditioning is ubiquitous.


You seem to be under the mistaken impression that heat pumps and vacuum cleaners and microwaves didn't exist in the 80s.


Makita made the first power tools running on batteries in 1978...


Yeah but they were pretty terrible until relatively recently.


Main problem with them was NiMh battery had a shorter battery life, and was easy to ruin. First lithium battery was made in 70s as well. First lithium ion was in mid 80s However till the 90s they were not really a commercially viable item to use in products. So its still 80s tech in some regards.


Heat pump mini split is a thing in 80s.




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