> You can either be "truly free," or you can be a member of society. You can't be both.
Says who?
I am one of the, according to you, stupid Americans who loves and demands freedom. I am forced to live in society and I am forced to participate by paying taxes. I don’t want your shot or your schools or your healthcare. I want to be left alone. You may think I am stupid but I think you are too.
I never said "stupid Americans." You have the freedom to misrepresent my words, but you don't have the freedom to actually change what I wrote, which remains published above.
> I am forced to live in society
No, you want to live in society. Society is where the hamburgers are; it's where the Internet is; it's where the houses with pipes delivering an endless bounty of water and electricity are; it's where the Hacker News comments section is. Being part of a society means, to some extent, accepting that many things which affect you every day are outside of your control and will be decided by someone else.
Someone decided that you have to be licensed in order to drive a car. You didn't decide that. Your freedom to drive a car (cars being a product of collective society) along roads (also a product of collective society) is determined by the collective will of society—and enforced by the collective will of society.
> I want to be left alone.
No, you want the benefits of society without being a contributor to it. You're just cherry picking the bits you like without care for long term stability of the whole. Society is fragile. And without it we have far less of the things which—if you're honest with yourself—matter to you far more than your affluent, plushy concept of "freedom."
Your post implies that "ideal" is well defined. I disagree. For what it's worth, I vehemently disagree that libertarian freedom is an ideal in theory or would be tolerated by the vast majority of people if applied in practice.
I would assert that most everything that most people actually enjoy in life is directly or indirectly scaffolded by a combination of socialism, capitalism and authoritarianism—and would be made worse by the actual reality of libertarian freedom.
> Being part of a society means, to some extent, accepting that many things which affect you every day are outside of your control and will be decided by someone else.
No it doesn't. You have shown zero proof to back up this statement. It is 100% completely possible to have a completely voluntary society. There is no reason force needs to be used to have a society. It even has a name: anarchy.
This is just the way your world view has been shaped by the status quo and where you grew up. Your mind is closed friend. Society doesn't require government.
> No, you want the benefits of society without being a contributor to it.
You have the freedom to misrepresent my words, but you don't have the freedom to actually change what I wrote, which remains published above.
> Society doesn't require government.
I never said society requires government. Only that it requires collective decision-making. You could require all collective decisions to require 100% agreement among all members, but then you'd achieve little to nothing.
Says who?
I am one of the, according to you, stupid Americans who loves and demands freedom. I am forced to live in society and I am forced to participate by paying taxes. I don’t want your shot or your schools or your healthcare. I want to be left alone. You may think I am stupid but I think you are too.