This seems like huge news and seems to be somewhat underappreciated/under discussed on HN... What's the over-under on number of months/years that Nomad will be able to compete?
I can't tell if consolidation in this space is a good thing (we finally get a single, extensible platform with widespread support, consistent APIs/models from vendors), or a bad thing (see: any other market lacking competition), but outside of Nomad and Swarm are there any other large container orchestrators that people put stock in these days?
Are we seeing the evolution of the VC model (subsidize-then-dominate) and/or it's application to F/OSS software? If I make a container orchestration platform (I've been sketching one out lately), do I have any hope in ever competing with Kubernetes for attention from developers, no matter how good what I make is (assuming ideological agility could offer benefits greater than millions of dollars is already a stretch).
Nomad is an interesting case. While everyone else was fighting container wars, Nomad was quietly executing and building a following.
It’s not a threat to Kubernetes and it will probably never be, but it definitely has a dominant position in a niche of container orchestrators that just work. It doesn’t attempt to solve every infrastructure-related problem under the sun. Its main value proposition is that it’s simple to operate and reason about. That’s a no small feat, given how complex and fragmented Kubernetes and the ecosystem around is.
Kudos to Hashicorp for staying true to themselves and always keeping the interest of their users at heart.
This is the way it always goes with innovation - when there is some new technology you can have the small agile firms with outside capital make huge gains. Then one of the big guys notices, consolidates the space, and now that space is basically a no mans land for new capital and innovation by small firms. The small firms made something interesting and novel, the big guys scale it and optimize it.
I don’t think that means the VC model is dead, just means they have to look around the fringes for things the big guys aren’t doing for the next five plus years
I can't tell if consolidation in this space is a good thing (we finally get a single, extensible platform with widespread support, consistent APIs/models from vendors), or a bad thing (see: any other market lacking competition), but outside of Nomad and Swarm are there any other large container orchestrators that people put stock in these days?
Are we seeing the evolution of the VC model (subsidize-then-dominate) and/or it's application to F/OSS software? If I make a container orchestration platform (I've been sketching one out lately), do I have any hope in ever competing with Kubernetes for attention from developers, no matter how good what I make is (assuming ideological agility could offer benefits greater than millions of dollars is already a stretch).