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It may be worth bearing in mind that one thing police union contracts can and do win as a concession is cities taking on civil liability and paying for legal defenses. The whole system is set up to dismiss and ignore poor behavior because those are the grievance-handling processes designed by police and enshrined in union contracts to serve that purpose.

Police unions have played a major role in protecting union members from management. Or as we call it elsewhere in politics, accountability.

I'm not saying solidarity is bad. I'm saying it's a tool that police unions have weaponized against the general public.



> I'm not saying solidarity is bad. I'm saying it's a tool that police unions have weaponized against the general public.

I think that reducing the problems of policing in the US down to "solidarity" isn't apt, as solidarity in other unions doesn't produce this level of opaqueness, lack of honesty and responsibility, negligence, ineptitude, or criminality.

The issue is at play is culture, one that comes from the top and is reinforced every step of the way to the bottom.

I agree that police unions have a strong hand in enabling and enacting the policies that shield police from accountability, but police are given powers that are unique to any other government or otherwise union worker. Allowing easily abused power to consolidate to the point that it has is why I'm against police unions in particular, but not others.


My apologies! I can see I have been unclear. Please allow me to correct this error.

I do not think, do not believe, and do not claim that all the problems of policing in the US reduce to weaponized solidarity. I think, believe, and stand by my claim that solidarity has been weaponized by police unions. I also stand by my previous claim that the particular behavior pattern other commenters pointed to is one form of weaponized solidarity in action.

I hope this has been helpful. Thank you for the opportunity to clarify. Again, please accept my apologies for my failures in communication.




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