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I always dread these purity-spiral final stages when it suddenly becomes sexist to normalize having women in things.


While I despise purity spirals, moral panics, and moral grandstanding with a great passion, I don't think that's what's going on here. It is at least mildly quaint. In this case it looks like the folks behind the website are into K-pop, and one of the very strange behaviors of K-pop fans is to post images and videos of their favorite kpop bands ... well, everywhere, often in violation of site ToSes. I'd honestly love to know more about why, because it gets mildly aggravating even if the images/videos themselves are very inoffensive.

Since this is their own website, I can't really be frustrated at all honestly. Still seems a little quaint, but I guess that's how a lot of 'ordinary' folks view those of us into Japanese otaku culture as well. Shrug.


Sorry, not my intention to imply they may be inciting a moral panic or grandstanding. The original poster (sorry to pick on you! you're fine!) didn't ask what's with all the K-pop stars on the page; they asked what's with all the women. This comment is already longer than theirs and it just read to me like somebody who generally wants to do the best thing for the most people and would appreciate some help with whether or not a particular thing is "okay" or "offensive". I feel that our natural (not always universal) human desire for inclusivity too often gets entangled with inhuman[1] entities (i.e. an online advertising marketplace) that can speak the language of our emotion but only to get us to click the correct buttons and delete the correct knowledge to make the numbers go up like we programmed it to.

I'm just weary of watching "sexist, or not sexist?" get asked about something until every shred of femininity has been deemed unacceptable and removed. Maybe just removing some photos[0] of women from our web pages. Maybe another group of work teammates stop inviting me to lunch or out on smoke breaks with them for fear of saying something offensive, losing their job, and seeing their name/address/SSN/rootpw dragged across Twitter during the Two Minutes Hate. Keep asking and it might eventually become Less Sexist to motion-capturing a real-life woman's face but then alter[@] her to not be so indecently-attractive for a major video game. Hopefully there's a farrier somewhere in this city who can explain this stuff to me.

The potential consequences for deemed-offensive speech are severe enough that risk avoidance becomes the only rational choice. All I can do is share how much and how many times this pattern has hurt me personally, hope enough other people feel similarly, and hope talking about it at all might help people feel more empowered and safe enough to make decisions about these topics and not have to defer to the inevitable lowest common denominator when we ask the machines.

[0] https://fstoppers.com/product/ikea-saudi-arabia-photoshops-w...

[1] https://mattbors.com/blog/2013/03/27/the-gay-marriage-rush/i...

[2] http://68.media.tumblr.com/747b5d8397547e41efb7980eb554838c/...


History is always happening. It is now considered inappropriate to appeal to the male gaze in content on a professional topic.




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