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I think the public will probably feel the same way, but if this happens again with another company, I think there will be sustained backlash. Hopefully Waymo is as advanced as they’re advertising, and given what a terrible company Uber is by comparison, that doesn’t seem to be an unreasonable assumption.

You know what they say though, once is a mistake, twice is a habit.



Hopefully Waymo has test drivers that actually pay attention.


Unlike Uber, Waymo has always said they do not believe (based on data and experience) "safety drivers" are a realistic safety measure, because normal human beings do not have the ability to concentrate hard on a task for 8 hours a day that they have absolutely no control/feedback upon.

If this is not obvious to you, you have never tried doing such a task. Try it and you will change your mind immediately.


I believe the safety drivers are primarily responsible for getting the autonomous cars to resume driving again after they've stopped for some unknown reason, not to react in a fraction of a second to divert a disaster.


In practice, yes.

In theory, as is obvious from all these comment threads, people seem to think the "safety drivers" (think about that name...) are there to actually, like, you know, improve safety.


That's the stated goal, I believe. I also believe that the actual task is "scapegoat." I sure hope the people taking this job offer are at least aware of this.


Yep, we are lousy at monitoring automation: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/90644/20151003/study-askin...


It could be done; they could drive in shorter shifts, and they could have automation like some high end cars that detect eyes off the road or off the wheel. I guess the main issue is that it would be expensive.


I agree with that actually. The task /as defined now/ is impossible for a human, but yes, actually designing it for human psychology would make it better. A great idea I saw on another comment thread was to keep safety drivers busy by giving them a task like labelling objects on the road as pedestrians, cars etc. Even if it is not that useful, it means their eyes will be on the road when it counts. I mean, we all do that when we do normal driving on boring roads, don't we, try to become more observant, count silly things, to fight boredom?

Pretty sure Uber doesn't give a damn and they see the safey drivers as window dressing. My bayesian gut tells me it's more likely the safety driver program is systemically weak, not that this guy was a huge outlier.


> You know what they say though, once is a mistake, twice is a habit.

This line of thinking might end up with more people dead by delaying the advancement of SDC's.


All the more reason to get rid of companies like Uber, who endanger the entire self-driving endeavour with their habitual reckless behaviour.




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