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I’ve seen people promoted once in FANG including Meta more than double their salary.


That almost never happens, at least at Google, unless you are running a very important project and you also bring offers from another FAANG. Otherwise, good luck.


People aren't really looking for "I've seen it" here. They're looking for "this is typical, and you can do it."


When was this? It also isn't the norm. I've also heard of people double their TC during COVID, but it was mainly due to the stock increase. It's not sustainable, nor is it the norm.


Within the last 4 years for sure, and before that as well. Not the norm, but for high performing engineers it’s definitely possibly without equity appreciation. But I do think it speaks to the parents comment — if you put in the extra work the payoffs at the right company definitely have higher ROI than two jobs where you’re lying / hiding / stressing about being mediocre. Just my two cents.

Note, it’s not just the initial promotion. It’s the wider compensation band it opens up.


which company? I've had friends get promoted at then Facebook and Amazon and not receive a 50% increase with EE/S let alone double. I doubt it happens very often even for top people unless they were underpaid.


I edited my comment but will reply here to for clarity.

It’s not the initial promo that necessarily gives you doubling. It’s the wider compensation bands the promotion opens up. Sustained performance can have high upside in a 2-4 year time horizon for high performers.


In Silicon Valley this is simply not true.


It simply is until you cite statistics.

Sorry for the apparent snark, but, I'm saying I don't believe you, and "nuh uh," "ya huh" isn't where I'd like to go with this.


I’ve more than doubled my salary every 4 years in Silicon Valley. I’m 11 years in and 16x my starting salary my first year out of college. Yes this includes equity comp, but this is not dominated by appreciation. My current employer stock performance hasn’t been great or even mediocre. But my career growth has ensured that doesn’t matter.


2^(11/4) = 6.7x you might want to check the math there :)

I guess you could have meant by "more than doubled" as 2.75x, that would work out. Pretty impressive.


Silicon Valley is insane, but that's nothing new, when I look at the money offered elsewhere, I really regret not trying harder to move there in my 20s.


At the same company though?


Within a single company? If so, thats pretty neat.


Wait a minute — a hardware note taking device requires a subscription for basic things like OCR and getting your notes off the device? How is that not the highlight reason never to buy one?



We ended up with the Eufy doorbell. Local storage is what sealed the deal for me. It's not perfect, but it's more than good enough. And there is no monthly subscription.


How do you configure these without a smart phone?


“Do it on a computer” may work for patent attorneys but it’s bs. Just because Amazon is on a screen doesn’t actually make it different than brick and mortar.


That’s funny because that’s not far from what Amazon argued for 24 years while they didn’t charge and pay sales tax between 1994-2017. They think they are special when it benefits them and think they are the same when it benefits them.


You mean collect sales taxes on consumer behalf, obviously Amazon wouldn’t pay sales tax on anything they didn’t buy. Before 2017, consumers were supposed to pay sales taxes themselves on purchases in any state where Amazon didn’t have a presence (they of course had to collect sales tax in any state they had warehouses in). But that would be like a Washingtonian having to pay sales taxes on purchases they made in Oregon, they mostly didn’t bother.

The whole states couldn’t mandate internet retailers to collect sales taxes in states they didn’t operate in was setup by the federal government (who regulate interstate commerce) and didn’t apply to just Amazon. The taxes were still owed by consumers, but the burden of collection not being ar the retail level meant that they were mostly not paying.


What do you think businesses do after they “collect sales tax” they pay it to the government.

What brick and mortar doesn’t charge sales tax and leaves it to the consumer to pay to the government directly?

You are making the very same bs argument Amazon made in multiple courts and lost, of course Amazon has to collect the sales tax, businesses get sales tax numbers from governments a consumer can’t exactly pay sales tax directly to governments, despite what Amazon tried to argue that’s not how sales tax works, all sales tax is reported/collected/paid based on a business sales tax account.


> What do you think businesses do after they “collect sales tax” they pay it to the government.

"Collecting sales tax on on behalf of the consumer for the government" should give you a good clue to what they are doing with that money. Consumers always paying the sales tax, not the businesses who collect them. They are still responsible for paying sales tax even when the business isn't collecting them (e.g. when I go to Portland and buy a MacBook Pro from the Apple store, I am supposed to myself pay sales tax to Washington state).

> What brick and mortar doesn’t charge sales tax and leaves it to the consumer to pay to the government directly?

The federal government created this scenario during the Bill Clinton Administration. It wasn't something Amazon decided on its own. And again, brick and mortar stores don't always collect sales tax (see Portland Apple store above, which gets way more business than is expected for the Portland area).

> You are making the very same bs argument Amazon made in multiple courts and lost, of course Amazon has to collect the sales tax, businesses get sales tax numbers from governments a consumer can’t exactly pay sales tax directly to governments, despite what Amazon tried to argue that’s not how sales tax works, all sales tax is reported/collected/paid based on a business sales tax account.

Again, Amazon didn't make that decision. It wasn't their decision to make. If you want to go after someone, go after the Clinton Administration, the congress that was installed at the time, and the Supreme Court.


> They are still responsible for paying sales tax even when the business isn't collecting them (e.g. when I go to Portland and buy a MacBook Pro from the Apple store, I am supposed to myself pay sales tax to Washington state).

That isn’t how sales tax works at all.

Good luck going to apple and trying to buy a MacBook and telling them not to charge sales tax because you are going to pay it yourself.

Paying sales tax as an individual to a state isn’t a real concept, businesses collect it because they have to by law the business is liable for the sales tax based on their receipts plus penalties, states don’t go after consumers. If businesses weren’t liable, then none of them would charge it/collect it/account for it/pay it to the state, because it’s extra work. They do it because they are liable for it.

But please I’d love for you to share your proof/receipts that you have successfully bought a MacBook without apple charging you sales tax and your proof that you paid it directly to state.


Purchasing via a catalog, as was popular before ecommerce.


Ironically, this likely unblocked bottlenecks on delivery speed and cost for Amazon, because they previously avoided operating in new states and now are spinning up distribution centers everywhere.


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