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Do you have to do PVC or can you just bury the fiber?


Like /u/someothherguyy said it depends on the cable type. There are shielded and jacketed outdoor cables that don't require PVC/EMT, but usually you'll have to terminate them yourself so there's additional tooling required.

I went with PVC because it's the easiest to work with, NEC only required it be buried 12in below the surface for residential, but I went to 24". I oversized the PVC a bit so I had room to run more cables as well. I filled the trench with gravel, ran the PVC over that, then filled over it with some more gravel. A thin layer of dirt, marking tape and then the rest of the dirt. Rent a trencher if you have hard ground.

If you're having a licensed electrician do the work of connecting house and office power then you can ask them to run the conduit for it at the same time.


it depends on the cable type, what you are willing to spend, where you live, etc

i tried to find a page that wasn't terrible for this, still kind of bad though:

https://www.gloryoptics.com/info/how-deep-does-spectrum-bury...


What do you use on the house and on the shed side to convert to CAT6?


you can use a media converter or a small switch - for example: https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/switching-utility/produc.... You may already have a fiber aggregation switch in the house to handle other fiber connected devices.


You're looking for a "media converter", often sold in pairs for ~$50. Match it to the fiber connectors you buy.


Media converters are effectively a switch, but less flexible. I would buy a switch with an sfp+ port instead and use it with an appropriate sfp module.


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You mention OTEL stuff in passing (Jaeger, etc). Did you ever consider using an open standard like OpenTelemetry? I admit it's challenging to get it going but standards can be helpful.


tbh it's partly timing and partly layer. the origins of Trifle go back to 2015 and when I revived it in 2021 OTel was still quite new. it wasn't really an "instead of" decision back then.

but I would also say they sit at different layers. while OTel is a standard for emitting telemetry and data still ends up being stored in some backend (jaeger for traces, prometheus for metrics), Trifle keeps data in the database you already have. which was kinda my point from the beginning, you don't need a dedicated database/stack to do basic analytics. I believe the audiences differ a bit as well. OTel grew towards infra/observability, while Trifle mostly ends up tracking product/business counters. for now I don't see these as competition.

back in 2021 I also started working on Trifle::Traces. which is a really (really!) simple tracing library for Ruby to wrap your code in different tracing blocks - I really disliked the idea of having puts statements everywhere and then patching stuff together in raw logs. at the end you get nicely structured output that is then completely up to you how you store it. we ended up putting searchable metadata in MongoDB and actual data in S3. then we built a small internal UI around it. ngl it sounds awfully like OTel tracing and jaeger.

so yea, that's a fair question. if OTel had been where it is today back then, maybe I would have fewer repos. I believe we often get lost thinking that we need these big tools to do basic things. to me, this is the gap that Trifle fills.


Thanks for the response - that makes a lot of sense. I wonder how hard it would be to make a compatibility layer in the future.


Your page doesn't resolve for me.


I've never met Hendrik but the code looks cool :)


Can you share something that you found nice?


That's super interesting - have you written up anything on this? I'd love to read it.


No, but I can give a small introduction. I installed krun from the arch package repositories: https://man.archlinux.org/man/extra/krun/krun.1.en

Then one can just pass `--runtime krun` to most podman subcommands. Alternatively, set the runtime key in the config file to make it the default.

Podman itself has "hardening" techniques, e.g. turning off the network or volumes that can be combined with this.


Unless they hire Homer Simpson.....


https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/npp-trademark-infringemen... Don Ho (original author of Notepad++) is not happy.


https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/npp-trademark-infringemen... Don Ho (original author of Notepad++) is not happy.


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