They’re hosting their own Gemini, so they aren’t sacrificing to Google’s standards even if using their technology.

> you buy the clothing with the most 000's at the end of the price because it's most likely the best

This is very rarely the case. For tailored or custom clothing, sure, but that doesn’t end up being the most expensive. Silly designer brands with lower quality do.

Not who you’re replying for but I can give some thoughts.

For anything math, it’s much more reliable to give agents tools. So if you want to verify that your real estate offer is in the 90–95th percentile of offerings in the past three months, don’t give Claude that data and ask it to calculate. Offload to a tool that can query Postgres.

Similar with things needing data from an external source of truth. For example, what payers (insurance companies) reimburse for a specific CPT code (medical procedure) can change at any time and may be different between today and when the service was provided two months ago. Have a tool that farms out the calculation, which itself uses a database or whatever to pull the rate data.

The LLM can orchestrate and figure out what needs to be done, like a human would, but anything else is either scary (math) or expensive (it using context to constantly pull documentation.)

This is objectively not true. You can’t get around HIPAA by saying “lol wasn’t me it was an Agent”

You can bet that someone out there is probably trying to build a startup right now based on that idea.

Yep. There's no certification needed to create a financial model or close monthly books.

HIPAA doesn't require any certification either. Some organizations voluntarily choose to earn certification from private companies that offer certifications for compliance with HIPAA privacy or administrative simplification rules but this is completely optional.

For doing some reporting stuff internally, there isn’t a certification. But there are definitely humans who have to certify financial statements and communications for financial offerings.

You’re advocating for less competition? AI startup valuations are out of control. People are raising $20m seed rounds.

If you can’t prove PMF and differentiation with $10m, I’m sorry but you’re not a serious enterprise.

And if what you’re building is “pitch deck AI”, I mean, come on.

It’s extremely like sports betting, because the vast majority of their volume is sports betting.

Criticizing someone for their subjective preference in drinks is incredibly weird.

> how can one prove code was AI generated beyond a reasonable doubt?

Subpoena the provider they use.

Even if they don’t retain the full context, they have to save API calls for billing and analytics. If you’re clauding for the hour up to and after the commit, one can reasonably assume you built it with (if not exclusively by) AI.

> If you’re clauding for the hour up to and after the commit, one can reasonably assume you built it with (if not exclusively by) AI.

That's not beyond a reasonable doubt.

I think if you ask something generic like “shoes”, this could be true.

When I’ve worked with Claude on finding brands for fashion (e.g. here’s a small watchmaker I like, what are similar options?) it does research and picks great options. Some are big, others are small producers.

It’s not, but legal is not the same as ethical.

For a long time, and probably still, it was legal for the US to torture enemy combatants. It was never ethical.

If you add to that the very broad limits of what the current administration considers "legal" (as in "pretty much anything we want to do"), I can understand feeling uneasy as a Google employee...

You’d need some shared ethical/moral framework to make that claim, which doesn’t really seem to exist anymore

You don't need a shared moral framework to come to a personal moral conclusion.

What does that mean? How does one come to a personal moral conclusion? Vibes?

(I take "moral framework" to mean a principled stance that gives objective grounding for a moral judgement. I agree that we can come to a moral judgement without putting it through a systematic and discursive defense, and I reject the notion that there are many moralities or that they are arbitrary, but it is also true that diverging conceptions of the basis of morality will frustrate agreement. Stopping at personal moral judgement does not lend itself to fruitful dialogue and understanding, as it constraints the domain of what is intersubjectively knowable.)

My moral framework can be different from yours. Me the individual can come to the conclusion that something is immoral when the rest of the group doesn’t agree with me. And (at least for my own moral framework) I should take action accordingly.

So I don’t need a shared framework to make the claim that something is immoral (to me).

The second is that it isn’t very interesting to stop at “personal moral judgement”. You’re having a dialogue, right? So, if you want to have a dialogue, you must explain your moral reasoning. I don’t like your parent’s use of the term “moral framework”, because it does lends itself to a relativistic interpretation - though charitably, the parent need not be a relativist, and is merely acknowledging the different stances of various moral theories. But also charitably, if we lack sufficient common moral ground, the first task is to find that moral common ground before you can discuss something with two incommensurate views in play.

Oops, looks like my earlier bullet point was truncated by accident on mobile. I’ll just leave it at this.