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Public parks can also be a surprise if you don't like the sound of people playing. Add a court, and things get fun.

I once lived across the street from a public park with a court. One day the judge burned her thighs on the hot metal slide, and now it's a parking lot.


it can give better results more consistently with the proper checks and balances.

You can get more consistent results from a slot machine with a bunch of magnets and some swift kicks. It's still gambling.


Even doctors who cater to the remote areas where farmers dwell get extra payments from our governments.

Very common in the United States, too.

There are a lot of doctors who get their student loans reduced or paid off by state and local governments in exchange for working a certain number of years in less-desirable locations. I've worked with a number of them.

There was an entire TV show based on it that ran on CBS for five years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Exposure


Likely not, but they are over their lost revenues.

NYT's revenue and subscription base are both increasing quite well.

Ad revenue was up 20%, and profit was up 26% in Q4. Revenue was over $700,000,000. 12,300,000 people pay for the New York Times.


NYT is perhaps an exception for well understood reasons. However, my local newsagent sells only a fraction of the magazine titles (conservatively 25%) of what it sold two to three decades ago. Many of those absent publications haven't transitioned to online but have ceased publication altogether.

Moreover, daily newspapers (the ones that have survived) are only about a third (or even less) as thick as they used to be in the 1990s, their classified ads are now almost nonexistent. And broadsheet format newspapers were kill off at the same time for the same reasons.

The internet has been devastating for the industry, ipso facto, the loss of revenues - both for physical print and online - has resulted lower journalistic standards hence the shithouse mess the publications industry is in today.


I subscribe, and yet they still bombard me with ads. Fuck that.

Dead trees FTW.

I'm lucky enough to live somewhere that gets dead trees for NYT, WSJ, local rag, and more. I value news, so I pay for it, and it's still less than I spend on coffee each month.

The best part: The newspaper ends. No everscroll zombie addiction.


They're not out of power. They're just in some weird deep hibernation mode. Mine do this, too.

The work-around I use is to plug them in to the charging cable for a couple of seconds. They wake up, the green light comes on and everything is fine.

It's a strange problem, but it's not the specific problem you think it is.


Nope, they are dead. If I happen to catch them before they fully run out of power, they are at 1-2% charge as reported on whatever device they connect to. I can prevent this if I carefully disconnect them from each device they might be connected to. But that is a massive pain and fully defeats the purpose of being able to just put them down.

During one of those awkward moments when only me and the CTO showed up on time for a meeting, he tried to fill the awkward silence by asking what I was working on.

I told him about building wireless moisture sensors and putting them in my houseplants. When the master controller, written in FORTH, senses one is too dry, it lights up an LED telling me which one should be watered.

He asked me why FORTH. I told him, "If it's good enough for deep space probes, it's good enough for houseplants."

Then everyone else showed up and I haven't had to speak to him again.


And Ashton-Tate's Framework IV on an 8088 with a MDA display.

It's a TUI if it uses text to build those elements.

No. All you've done is make a low-resolution GUI.


TUI means "Terminal User Interface" or "Text User Interface"

A GUI that is built with Text, and intended to be used in a Terminal, is what a TUI is, colloquially AND definitionally.

What do you think qualifies as a TUI?


I've been using TUIs since PR1MEOS mini-mainframes in the early 1980's, I know what I'm talking about.

The issue is not the text. It's the WIMP interface.


Define TUI. I'm genuinely curious what it means in your context.

This is a pointless semantic argument.

Of course you can use the primitives of TUI, especially with mouse support, to reproduce a large amount (if not all) of the standard GUI interaction paradigms.

But it's bizarre, and missing the point from a UX perspective.

As an extreme example, we can imagine a program that displays the borders of a 40x15 "window" in the middle of a console, with box-drawing characters, putting a "close box" in an upper corner, with text like "File Edit Help" in the top left. We can imagine it responding to a click on the "File" text by popping out a "menu"; we can imagine a drag starting from the "title bar" causing the window position to be update (and the entire terminal window redrawn).

A lot of those kinds of functions, ironically enough, might make sense for a TUI editor implemented as a TUI (except the "windows" might just be understood as panels where the ultimate program displays parts of its output). But as an emulation of GUI windows, it'd be a strange, impractical novelty.


What's with the purism? It's just a term used to differentiate one way of making a UI from another. Who cares about what is practical when you're just trying to give a thing a name.

Even in your example, it's pretty clear cut. If the window is built with text and served in a terminal emulator, it's a TUI. If you build it with a graphical framework that now needs X11 or whatever, it's a GUI.

This is just needlessly pedantic.


Yeah, that's the point. Why did you think you needed to say it?

It's a GUI that works over SSH. There is a very valid use case for that.


I assume his point is that making stuff that assumes a mouse makes for a bad text-based UI. Absolutely fine if everything is controllable via the keyboard, e.g. if the tabs were labelled F1-Fn and they function keys switched them, or they had an underlined letter and Ctrl+letter switched focus to it, or whatever.

But if this thing requires you to just tab a lot through lots of pointless and rarely used fields to get to a "button" so you can activate it, because it's really all designed to be used with a mouse, then it's a bad text-based UI.

There are some incredibly good text-based UIs around, some going back to mainframe stuff from the 70s. Most of them are optimised for speed of control via keyboard rather than for looking pretty. Almost none of them would be quicker to use with a mouse.


absolutely, but it's still a TUI. Just like if you made a GUI that didn't have any mouse support and needed all keyboard shortcuts, it wouldn't stop being a GUI.

TBH I've always hated the backronym TUI anyway, so if TUI includes things that require mouse input, then maybe we can go back to using "text-based UI" for things that only require a keyboard like we used to 30 years ago.

Would you say old DOS applications like Borland's Turbo series of compilers were not TUIs? They ran in the console but had menus, mouse support, dialog boxes, etc...

How about those text games that used ASCII art and you typed in commands like "look" and "go north"?

I would say using text mode is the primary requirement for a TUI. The other requirement being some kind of human-machine connection, IE a User Interface.


there's been pushback and talk of going to chromebooks

There's been talk of the education market going to Chromebooks?

Did we just fall into a wormhole to 2014?


Can we bring computer labs back into education, instead of K-12 all having their own laptops?!? Why does a primary schooler need to "access an online assignment portal" to turn in his assignment?!? You can make a good argument (perhaps) for high schoolers having access to personal laptops, but this shouldn't be allowed on the whim of all classroom hours.

We are failing our next generation, massively — it's already washing out in Gen Alpha's testscores/employability.

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background: attended college on a teaching scholarship, twenty years ago; immediately left heartbreak of education, breaking repayment contract, to attend grad school; still jaded from that uncredentialed five-figure expense


yes. I think EdTech can be helpful for learning; but having immediate access to the rest of the internet at the same time negated whatever benefit EdTech would have had. I think that's why all the data from the EdTech companies shows a benefit in controlled studies of just their product, but the rest of our overall academic achievement data shows a net decline ever since portable screens were introduced into life and education.

Most of my peers/brothers met their wives IRL, pre-Tinder. They only realize how bad portable screens have become watching their/others' children fumble through normal developmental milestones.

Across the age spectrum I've challenged many to just not use their phone for one day [0] — and this often provokes intense defensiveness/anxiety. I'm personally back exploring new working jurisdictions, and the criteria of "Right to Disconnect" is a major influencer (i.e. cannot contact me during non-work hours).

[0] as a cellphone-less fortysomething


To clarify: Talk of going from iPads to Chromebooks. Because kids view the iPads as a toy to play games on.

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