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Yes, you use a meta account that has no ties to Facebook. Mine is under an alias with absolutely no connection to any social feeds or network.

Unless you count Meta Horizon Worlds which is kind of a joke.


Do you leave your phone outside when you use it? Do you use the same wifi? I would find it hard to believe that Meta can't predict who you are.


The question was if you needed a Facebook account for a quest headset. Not whether or not you wear a tinfoil hat.


It's an anonymous board. Those numbers are unique post ID's referenced by >>.

The thread IDs have 3 chevrons. If you wish to reply to someone, you click the "reply" button and a >>$ID is placed in the comment box.


Are you really so strapped for disk space that 70MiB impacts your user experience?

EDIT: The parent comment is disingenuous: the application isn't even 70MB. It's only 70MB if you download the windows edition with vendored libicu (unicode, 31MB) library. It weighs around ~20MB on linux distributions, which is insignificant.


Even worse this kind of critique is actively cancerous to new developers if they actually think that people outside of HN care about this.

Development productivity over everything. Features matter not app binary size.


That mindset is why modern-day ultrabooks give the same practical performance as 15 years ago. All of the hardware advances have been gobbled up in the name of "developer productivity".

Check (eg.) the Elevated 4k Demo winner to glimpse what modern computers are actually capable of in the hands of good developers.


Eh. Binary size by itself contributes very little to an application's performance.

>Check (eg.) the Elevated 4k Demo winner to glimpse what modern computers are actually capable of in the hands of good developers.

If all software were to be built using the same techniques the demo scene uses, nothing would ever get done, and if by chance a project does get released, no one would be able to maintain it afterwards. Let's not confuse art and engineering just because both use code as the medium.


An application's performance is orthogonal to its binary size.


Not orthogonal, maybe diagonal.

Sizecoding productions are an exception, because they tend to use really slow and memory hungry unpackers (can take up to gigabytes of RAM to do their job, for a 4k intro!), and they tend to lack all optimization techniques that could improve speed in exchange for more code (ex: culling, etc...). And flooding memory with millions of generated objects is no problem for these productions, as long as they are not stored in the executable.

But in general, larger binaries are slower to load, simply because there is more bytes to copy from disk to RAM. And although it is not always the case (ex: sizecoding), it usually means a larger memory footprint, resulting in worse CPU cache efficiency, less memory for other apps and filesystem caches, etc... Also, large binaries tend to be a symptom of inefficient code, with too many abstraction layers, poor optimization, etc... Another very common reasons for bloated executables is that they bundle all their libraries, which means that they don't take advantage of shared libraries, requiring the OS to maintain multiple copies of the same library, possibly including some outdated or poorly optimized versions.


I don't agree with this, not by a long shot, this kind of mindset is why we have such a cancerous proliferation of overbloated and slow software today and it's just getting worse and worse every day.


So what? The tradeoff is that you make much less money with your mindset in exchange for impressing people on an internet forum.


> Features matter not app binary size.

*.exe in Everything = 11 586 objects on this machine.

At 70MB a piece that would come out to ~800GB.


If you'd be running Qalculate on a Linux desktop system, where all the "heavy" dependencies (ICU, GTK or Qt) are already present and shared between all applications, Qalculate wouldn't require 70MB.

Of course you could also provide a Win32 frontend to bring down the space requirements drastically and make it more Windows "native"; there's a well documented libqalculate for exactly those purposes.


Source? They've always been logless.

I think you have this completely backwards considering Proton maliciously logged and handed out customer IPs to police [0].

[0]: https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/06/protonmail-logged-ip-addre...


“The Swiss legal system, while not perfect, does provide a number of checks and balances, and it’s worth noting that even in this case, approval from three authorities in two countries was required, and that’s a fairly high bar which prevents most (but not all) abuse of the system.”


As any other company operating legally, we have to respect the local legislation, which is what happened in this case. The case also shows that our encryption works as intended - we were not able to share any of the user's data stored encrypted on our servers (email content, attachments, etc.), because we don't have access to it ourselves.

Note also, that the case pertains to Proton Mail, and not Proton VPN. Proton Mail is considered to be a communication service, and in most countries (including Switzerland), communication services are regulated to some extent. The treatment of VPNs is different. There are no Swiss laws compelling us to log IP addresses, personal identifiers, traffic or browsing history, as proven in a 2019 legal case (we were not able to provide the requested information because we don't keep any: https://protonvpn.com/blog/transparency-report/).


thank you Protonmail. I was downvoted as expected, but you still the only viable option <3.


And how does Mullvad deals with court orders?

I guess it's handled by this finding in the audit:

“VPN servers accept remote logins from administrators, who technically have the ability to tap into production users' VPN traffic”


Here you go:

https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2023/4/20/mullvad-vpn-was-subjec...

In short, they immediately and helpfully complied with police... by letting them know they did not store any data about customers whatsoever.


If your treat assessment involves this, you're probably best not using a $5 a month VPN.


>maliciously

They literally had no choice, it was a court order.


A circular reference to baseless conjecture is not a source.


Agreed. I'll look for where I read this... Maybe it was just a paranoid loon on the internet but for some reason I shelved it mentally as trustworthy... Bah don't trust me


Thus why I said not a source?


No. Nothing of the sort. They were forced by law to reveal IP addresses of some key individuals.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProtonMail#Compliance_with_S...

https://proton.me/legal/transparency


Sorry, race conditions? You really have to go out of your way to implement those.


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