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Did people already refer to it as the Great Depression in 1929?

No, but likely just some years later people were aware of the name:

> The term "The Great Depression" is most frequently attributed to British economist Lionel Robbins, whose 1934 book The Great Depression is credited with formalizing the phrase, though Hoover is widely credited with popularizing the term, informally referring to the downturn as a depression, with such uses as "Economic depression cannot be cured by legislative action or executive pronouncement" (December 1930, Message to Congress), and "I need not recount to you that the world is passing through a great depression" (1931). - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression#Naming


But 1931 is after 1930?

Are you already aware of terms that will only be coined in 2027? But 2027 is so close, why shouldn't you already know?


> But 1931 is after 1930?

Yeah, I think so too. Why?

> Are you already aware of terms that will only be coined in 2027? But 2027 is so close, why shouldn't you already know?

I think Wikipedia's information about the naming is likely only what could be sourced, and also the 1934 is about "formalization", and the 1930/1931 are more official messages that I guess there is still copies off, it wouldn't be a stretch to assume the word could been used in more informal contexts some year before that.


If we can't find instances from before 1930 then we can't expect an AI trained on information we can find to know about instances before 1930.

It'd be trivial to check, if the dataset is known just grep for "Depression" and "Great Depression" and see what comes up, still don't think it's impossible the names were in use before someone decided to wrote to Congress about it.

I'd argue that even by early 1930, people probably wouldn't have seen it as significantly different from other short market downturns. It's only with the benefit of hindsight that we can see its impact was long lasting and worthy of being given a name.

"How has the stock market fared in recent years?"

"During the period from 1924 to 1929, there was a general rise in stock exchange values, the average level at the end of 1929 being 18 per cent. above that of 1924. The setback in 1930 has carried the average down to 8 per cent. above the 1924 level, and the decline has been accentuated by the break in Wall Street. The present situation is uncertain, but hopes are entertained of a recovery."

It also knows about Smoot-Hawley, predicting that it will "stimulate home production and expand employment" - and when pressed for potential downsides says only that "consumer prices may rise a little more than otherwise".

We're used to thinking of the inter-war years as a single period, but there were actually two distinct phases: rising optimism during the 1920s, followed by economic rentrenchment and turn towards authoritarianism in the 1930s. The dividing line is fuzzy - somewhere between Kellogg-Briand in 1928 and the first 1931 Sterling crisis.

The pre-1931 cutoff date for this model is probably as close to the end of the optimistic age as it's reasonable to get. I'd love to see a 1936 variant for comparison!


The US public domain currently covers up to the year 1930, which is probably the reason it cuts off at that year. To get a 1936 variant you will have to wait until 2032 for them to be able to legally train the model.

I’ve been using Observation.org (or rather its localized version Waarneming.nl) to record my hedgehog sightings. Should I use both platforms, or do these data points end up aggregated downstream anyway?



In the acknowledgements section. However, after reviewing it, I’m not sure what or who I should be looking for, so I’m not entirely sure what the OP is hinting at.

At first glance, nothing appears suspicious, though I should note that I’m not familiar with any of the authors and haven’t looked into them further.


The insult is that hes similar to Lex Fridman, not that hes Indian.


Maybe im overlooking something obvious but how do you 'simply' scan the content of Claude users their prompts?


GP was making a joke, but Anthropic could implement this if they wanted to. Not a bad metric actually if you can measure it cheaply enough.


The Netherlands is preventing is trying to prevent hyperscale data centers from being built because they require as much energy is a year as a small city. I can't imagine dismissing the import of a small city's worth of Indians quarterly as trivial.


Would it be possible to see what you’re currently building? I’m very interested.


Of course and thank you for your interest. The first real world use case is here: https://www.upstateweeklynews.com


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