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In Europe they have an issue with the economic refugees from Muslim countries. And in Denmark has the counter example of Sweden where they cause trouble. That's why the far right gets people's votes. Of course, all they do is point to the migrants. The far right won't be solving any issues, it will just create new ones.

Why you feel the need to discuss a "far right" in Europe while US tech leadership is performing roman salutes in front of live cameras?

Muslim refugees are not responsible for Epstein, Greenland, US import duties, US ignoring Minsk agreement or Facebook actively supporting fake news with engineering resources embedded into political campaigns. The vast majority of muslim refugees integrates extremely well and perform shitty jobs that help our society, all while being traumatized from wars they were born into.

The social media accounts of the "far right" sit in st. petersburg propaganda mills and their advertisement account managers sit in san francisco. Workers at US-tech companies are responsible for the unchecked bombardment of our citizens with propaganda and fake news.


Are you suggesting that the AfD is not popular?

> Workers at US-tech companies are responsible for the unchecked bombardment of our citizens with propaganda and fake news.

They're also responsible for the propaganda and fake news targeting the center and the left. It just works most effectively to drive people right because of.... widely-distributed personality quirks, shall we say. It's not clear this dynamic would disappear if social media disappeared, but I do think it would slow down.


Dreadful weather but otherwise a nice country.

Yeah, he also hoped to rent Venice for his wedding, but he had to move the venue because people got annoyed. They'll probably also get fed up with him shoving his cloud down their throats. He could then move on to mining asteroids using robots, who won't be unionizing.

I'm obviously not going to show my id to Zuckerberg's website or any porn sites, casinos because I don't trust those bastards. They're also not the police, so they lack the proper autoritah to request my an id.

I think the point of the comment you are answering to is that in Switzerland, they are building a system where you can prove your age without telling who you are to the website, and without telling which website you visit to your government.

Not a fan of Cloudfare but why should it be responsible for providing pro bono services to the Italian government during the winter olympics?

If one gets drunk at the pub and threatens the staff after being served free drinks, they get thrown out. Why should this be any different?

In Spain they also have similar laws made specifically for UEFA and the broadcasters' mafia.


The services aren't pro bono if they're only offered in exchange for getting a law modified.

And if you offer people free stuff and then turn around and demand something in return, they're going to get upset and like you less than if you had never offered the free stuff in the first place.


There was no exchange implied... before this sentence. Cloudflare might well be justified in feeling that the other side altered the deal, so to speak.

Unsurprising. In his first mandate he withdrew the US from the TPP after 7 years of negotiation and the Iran nuclear deal (JOPA), the TTIP negotiations.

Black market. We had satellite dishes in Eastern Europe during communism. Bribe some people, shell out some insane amounts of cash and it can be done.

If black market's the only reason that activism/journalism/outside contact is even possible in the country

It doesn't seem much of a plan (very sadly, I wish there was) which could be uncensored that much, some other comment pointed this point too but if black market's the case, then they would just hide whoever is using this

They would also most likely be very less in amount, journalists etc.

But the average person, they are stuck without proper internet

I thought that there are materials which can build starlink and the only thing then you need is just subscription or something

It's just sad to see that black market is the only way.


As someone who grew up in late Communist Czechoslovakia, you underestimate the black market. Its capabilities were only comparable to the Secret Police itself (StB in our case).

People in unfree conditions are crafty. Same with information. Suppressed information spreads using underground channels quite quickly.

For example, we knew almost immediately that there was some nuclear disaster in Ukraine even though the official channels didn't say anything for days.


Stop worrying. You don't have to liberate everyone. The Iranian regime will screw itself up by attacking Israel.

It's usually smuggled parts if they're small enough. Someone outside of the country usually makes the subscription and they get paid somehow.


It only makes sense if one wants boat a left and right handed camera st the same time. But then it's got the dials on the wrong side.

There are still Maduro-linked armed rebel groups like the ELN in Venezuela that aren't that keen on the US version of freedom.

Not necessarily, but there is the risk that ELN will further consolidate power. Maybe the US dies not want the group's leader, Antonio Garcia, to be the next president of Venezuela.

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