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github hasn't absorbed agentic coding, though. agentic coding has absorbed it, and as a result it's quality is suffering.

the thing about github that is so maddening is linus gave us the secret with git itself. then we reinvented centralized source control using git and called it github, and here we are.


Decentralized version control only works if there is some way to find and access those distributed repositories. For many reasons and no matter the tech there is always a drift towards having a centralized registry so that the degrees of separation for individual actors is minimised. Be that a search engine or code forge or social network.

For *most* users, fully distributed and disconnected is a bug not a feature.


I don't miss the days when every project had it's own SVN server....

Say what you will about github-the-source-control-platform, github-the-unified-login-for-bugtrackers has been a huge success.

my father made reading The Agony and The Ecstasy a requirement to go to Italy when I was a sophomore in high school. It's a thick tome, but a great read if you're a curious kid.

as the others said Michelangelo hated doing that painting. He's a very tragic, albeit heroic to me, man. I'd recommend that book if you're at all fascinated by him.


last.fm was so promising when it came out but i have to say i didn’t discover anything using their platform.

chatGPT is incredible, just giving it a single song and some context, it can recommend at a rate of something like 85-90%.

the only place i’ve gotten the BEST music recommendations were the oink and last.fm forums. humans, still, are the best recommendation infrastructure.


This is GOLD Jerry, Gold.

but who detects the down detector detecting the down detector detecting the down detector


You're on that site right now!


HN is the true down detector - if HN is down TCP is down.



I know you were joking, but responding in seriousness - while in general it's worthwhile asking "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?", in this particular case, I don't see any issue with Down Detector detecting the Down Detector Down Detector. Assuming they are in different availability zones, using different code, with a different deployment cadence, this approach works quite well in practice.


haha — this is the exact comment i was hoping to see! indeed, i was joking. The Watchmen graphic novel is very important to me as it opened my eyes to the concept of “who watches the watchmen” which I was ultimately eluding to here, albeit extremely facetiously.


> Quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

Arbites.


"To serve the Emperor. To protect His domains. To judge and stand guard over His subjects. To carry the Emperor's law to all worlds under His blessed protection. To pursue and punish those who trespassed against His word."


i love you guys.


Can down detector not detect whether down detector detector is down or not?

Maybe distributed down detection?

I know there are people here perfectly capable of running with that idea and we might just see a distributed down detector announced on HN :)



See, that's the joke, all of them are on cloudflare/us-west-1 so they all go down together anyway


pervs.


Time for the META Down Detector - detecting which of the three is down


Or "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"


I think the original down detectors do


Mutually assured down-detection.


It's detectors all the way down.


There's always another asking, "Are you down?" It's a bit of a bop.

https://youtu.be/DpMfP6qUSBo


iran did this to themselves. any other view is simply insane.


they’ll easily make this up at the parks at the new tron ares ride


i came back to rails after a very long hiatus to help a company bring a 10+ year old rails project to Rails 8.x.x from Rails 5. It took a bit to get back in the saddle, but every new project I’ve started since that’s a SaaS/CRUD app of some kind it’s in Rails.

I’m finally at the age where productivity is infinitely more important than anything else.


A few weeks ago because there were 2 HN comment sections shitting on NextJS endlessly, I decided to go back to Rails.

I have ported a chunk of my likely last full stack JS project over to Rails with AI vibe coding everything as a reference for me to redo it again with AI but not vibe coding.

Absolutely amazing work. About 40% of that NextJS app was vibe coded and the process of undoing the excessive and verbose code was depressing me.

The Ruby and Rails code is simple and understandable and a fraction of the lines of code.

Last sentence exactly. I am using IntertiaJS for some of the frontend and I finally don’t dislike JS any more. React is amazing when it’s only a view library.


are you dabbling at all in the “no build js” stuff that Rails 8 supports? i did it for that corporate project and their deploy time went from 30 minutes to 5 minutes. it’s also such a headache reliever but removing most of the confusing aspects of the JS ecosystem for me.


this is also the insight that the bwa developer had, to use the burrows-wheeler transform which is part of bzip2 due to it's compression properties being particularly good for genomic sequences.


I once had the distinct pleasure of hosting the author of BWA (R. Durbin) at Google, and pointing out "That's Mike Burrows, over there, next to Jeff Dean and Sanjay Ghemawat". That led to an interesting discussion between Durbin and Dean on DNA sequence compression. It's not the first time I've been in a room with a bunch of geniuses and simply kept my mouth shut so nobody would know I'm an idiot.


fwiw Heng Li was "the author." He was a postdoc under Durbin's professorship. I was around when bwa was developed and was working in a collaboration with Heng Li (I was working on SOLiD R&D). Any development emails were between Heng and our team, we never spoke with Durbin.

first author on a paper like this indicates the most significant contributions https://academic.oup.com/bioinformatics/article/25/14/1754/2...


But you're the genius I keep my mouth shut around!


sure, but instagram was created by a handful of people with python and got a billion dollar exit in 2012.


What has that to do with the topic? Warren Buffet made billions without any do knowledge about programming or deeper knowledge about computers.


Mansa Musa was so rich he decreased the local gold to silver exchange rate in Egypt by 12% without ANY modern technology!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansa_Musa#Wealth


> sure, but instagram was created by a handful of people with python and got a billion dollar exit in 2012.

Facebook famously felt compelled to hire eminent C++ experts to help them migrate away from their PHP backend. I still recall reading posts on the Instagram Engineering blog on how and where they used C++.


And then HipHop failed to provide as much gains as they hoped for versus the Hack JIT implementation, thus Facebook keeps writing mostly PHP like code in many of their workloads.


> And then HipHop failed to provide as much gains as they hoped (...)

What point do you think you're making?


That the C++ migration in the end did not achieve everything they were trying to get out of it, and another more productive approach was chosen in the end.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HipHop_for_PHP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HHVM


What is this culture of judging everything by amount of money.

No one needs a billion dollars, it is practically irrelevant unless you are running on greed


money is a proxy for value. the post i was responding to seemed to be pointing out how little value there is in something else.


The post you responded to said they were very happy about their tools becoming better and your reply read as a dismissal of that, citing someone having made billions by writing an advertisement platform in Python.

So either I and others misread you or it is just a matter of different views on value.


And Youtube used Python almost exclusively at the start AFAIK.

Then again Scott Meyers said he's never written a C++ program professionally.


> Then again Scott Meyers said he's never written a C++ program professionally.

I think you're inadvertently misrepresenting Scott Meyers' claim.

Cited from somewhere else:

> I'll begin with what many of you will find an unredeemably damning confession: I have not written production software in over 20 years, and I have never written production software in C++. Nope, not ever.

He went on to clarify that he made a living out of consultancy, not writing software. He famously retired from C++ in 2015, too.


also text UIs have always attempted a sense of flashiness? your BIOS, DOS UI's back in the day, etc. the OP sounds oddly jaded by it for no particular reason?


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