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Were do 5k monitors fit in the current 4k+ future?


I agree that not all advocates are "cultist" but I did not even know this existed as a real disease, https://www.perception.foundation/faq. Wow , not sure if the site is accurate but either way it seems both sides of the issue need to be very honest and smart about psychedelics because info about Marijuana is just starting to be better known and that info was never in the conversation before, just like psychedelics now.


There are few drugs for which withdrawal symptoms can include death, but alcohol is one of them and it's legal for adults to consume it recreationally. I don't think elucidating the risks of any substance is ever a bad thing, but it's also disingenuous to frame this as presenting "both sides" of an issue.

The claim that a drug has some potential side effects simply has no bearing on the question of whether prohibition is good policy, because the case against prohibition isn't and has never been that any drug is completely risk-free or cures every disease or makes you shit rainbows or whatever nonsense, the claim is that adults should get to make those decisions for themselves


Can you guys just all go to Firefox so it has a chance, the way Chrome changes things is not acceptable and Firefox, performance wise, is just as fast even if people say otherwise. Try it and test for yourself.


Guys I am not disagreeing with anyone here but the patents for weather technologies are very real and gag orders are also very real so could someone please explain or link to info on why these things exist instead of saying covid made people stupid, which I assume means you also think yourself and all government leaders are now dumber? That does not mean anyone is causing hurricanes but maybe if more information on technologies that has been for decades was explained it would not be so confusing and these things would not get so out of hand.


> the patents for weather technologies are very real

Would you cite some of them, then? Especially ones that are not just "weather technologies" but are capable of creating, amplifying, and/or steering hurricanes?


One doesn't need to be able to build the thing they patent. I've seen conspiracy theorist link to weather technology patents but they are things like "create a fog", which I think we'll both agree is SLIGHTLY less energetic than the current extreme weather, so if you know of a patent for and evidence of a working hurricane machine I'd like to see it. We can't just say "well they seed rain, therefore they have a hurricane machine".


Not disagreeing with you but I think people underestimate how many users would not watch Youtube if there were no Adblockers, I only say this because many in the content space and sometimes in the SAS/Webapp space are severely overestimating there products value and would not even with bother with Youtube specifically because of the unknown factor when they deliver adds. I think something like Tubi does it better and feels more like they actually respect the viewer while Youtube, like all Google, respect nothing which makes the breakup so so funny but I digress.


What country allows voting with out ID, can people traveling also vote? There is no logical reason to not require ID, this is not really a party issue.


There are multiple comments in this thread explaining why it is a very real issue. It is a party issue because one party relies on de facto voter suppression to win.


Each party has its own reasons to prefer one policy or the other. But admit it. We should not let people vote without ID because it makes fraud possible. Why doesn't the anti-ID party say instead that they agree with fighting fraud and they want to ensure that people can easily get an ID if they are legitimate? I think we can infer that their fighting basic ID requirements is evidence of their proclivity for fraud.

Imagine saying the same thing about license plates lol. "We want to provide economic opportunity for people disenfranchised by the bureaucracy of the DMV!" But do you want to live in a world where unregistered/uninsured cars on the road are acceptable? The same applies to voting without ID. Getting an ID is one of the simplest things an adult can do, and modern life de facto requires having one.


Driving is a privilege, voting is a right. You need to do some reading and reflection before commenting.


No, voting in the US is a right for US citizens only. I think you need to do some reflection yourself on why you think fraud or perception of fraud is not important. It seems like there are ways to solve these problems without resorting to nonsense policies like "anyone can vote without id."


Voters in the US are already registered and identified by mail to their address. Voter fraud instances are extremely low.


How is Googles CEO still there, I understand that changing CEO's does not magically change anything but this is getting ridiculous. Google has dramatically changed since he has been in charge, this might be the 4th crazy mind blowing incident that could possibly lead to their downfall but I have a bad memory.


"Professional audio will typicall utilize 24-bit. Everything higher than that is usually bogus. Bogus where only audiophiles will hear a difference." Does he mean internal DAW bit rates like 64/32bit float are bogus, I am probably reading it wrong ?


If you listen to an audio file at 24 bit vs 64 bits (bit depth, not bitrate), you won't notice a difference. However, if you're manipulating audio in a DAW or similar, it's possible for noise to end up amplified in the final output, so a higher bit depth could make a difference.

Think of it this way: every time you add a filter or any type of audio manipulation in your DAW, you're discarding some information and replacing it with noise (how much depends on what manipulation you're doing, but it's almost always >0). If you start at 24 bits and then don't manipulate anything, it's all good. But if you start at 24 bits and then lose 10 bits of the true signal, you're down to just 12 bits of information. But if you start at 64 bits, you can lose 40 bits before you start to notice anything (or really it depends quite a lot on many different factors, but in general there's a threshold where noise goes from "not noticeable" to "noticeable" and it's probably usually between 8 bits and 32 bits).

Don't quote me on the details (I am not an audio engineer or anything even slightly related), but that's the general gist of it.


I read them as talking about listening, as represented in mentioning audiophiles.

The extra depth/range available in DAW's are useful for effects processing, mixing, and mastering and are a little colored by trying to squeeze max-performance DSP on a general-purpose/commodity CPU. I just don't take them as talking about that here though.


And the bits are basically free. If we had very cheap 24-bit floats and nothing bigger, maybe we'd use those, but we've got cheap 32-bit floats, so those are fine.

The most important property of floating point is "infinite headroom". In integer space, sixteen times quieter means 4 fewer bits of audio, get the levels wrong badly enough and people can hear your mistake even if you fix it later - but in float space it barely makes any difference, so long as the levels are correct in the final consumed audio nobody cares.


We would NOT use 24 bit floats since that would make them less than ideal at matching the hypothetical (and almost certainly never reach) 24 bit resolution of integer DAC/ADC hardware.

The reason why 32 bit floats work great is that they can handle a 24 bit integer without any loss, and then if for some reason the values get kicked up above the maximum you can represent there, you get subtle noise rather than heavy distortion.


I don't think I agree. As you say, those extra few bits in your integer PCM are probably just noise, worse they might be correlated noise. They're not worthless, but I can't agree that they're automatically better than the infinite headroom option.

We don't have a world with 24-bit float DAWS, in our world stuff tends to offer 32-bit float, and so that's a no brainer, but just as I'm sure the 14-bit CD would have been perceived much the same as our world's 16-bit CD (bad engineers would do a bad job with it, good engineers would learn to use it well, some people would hate it for no reason), I think 24-bit float in the studio would have similar fans to 32-bit float.


“16 times quieter” is not 4 bits.

“Half volume” is subjective, and for music is typically between 6 and 10dB (most US audio engineering classes use 10dB).


I think he's kind of wrong. As you say, anything going through any kind of professional audio editing software is probably 32/64 bit float. AFAIK all audio plugin standards work on 32/64 bit floats.

Although I imagine at least historically that's more because 32 bit floats are a native data type.


I don’t deal with audio, but I do use high frequency DACs/ADCs.

I have never found a DAC that actually has useful/detectable output differences above 16-18 bits. I’m not talking about audible, I mean with oscilloscopes. Many DACs take 32 bit inputs, but those extra bits aren’t useful in the real world.

The integral and differential non linearity of DACs in the real world make those extra bits misleading.


Is forking really possible with an LLM or one the size of future Lama versions, have they even released the weights and everything? Maybe I am just negative about it because I feel Meta is the worst company ever invented and feel this will hurt society in the long run just like Facebook.


> have they even released the weights?

Isn't that what the model is? just a collection weights?


When you run `ollama pull llama3.1:70b`, which you can literally do right now (assuming ollama.com is installed and you're not afraid of the terminal), and it downloads a 40 gigabyte model, that is the weights!

I'd consider the ability to admit when even your most hated adversary is doing something right, a hallmark of acting smarter.

Now, they haven't released the training data with the model weights. THAT plus the training tooling would be "end to end open source". Apple actually did that very thing recently, and it flew under almost everyone's radar for some reason:

https://x.com/vaishaal/status/1813956553042711006?s=46&t=qWa...


Doing something right vs doing something that seems right but has a hidden self interest that is harmful in the long run can be vastly different things. Often this kind of strategy will allow people to let their guard down, and those same people will get steamrolled down the road, left wondering where it all went wrong. Get smarter.


How in the heck is an open source model that is free and open today going to lock me down, down the line? This is nonsense. You can literally run this model forever if you use NixOS (or never touch your windows, macos or linux install again). Zuck can't come back and molest it. Ever.

The best I can tell is that their self-interest here is more about gathering mindshare. That's not a terrible motive; in fact, that's a pretty decent one. It's not the bully pressing you into their ecosystem with a tit-for-tat; it's the nerd showing off his latest and going "Here. Try it. Join me. Join us."


> How in the heck is an open source model that is free and open today

Is free, but it's not open source


Yeah because history isn't absolutely littered with examples of shiny things being dangled in front of people with the intent to entrap them /s.

Can you really say this model will still be useful in 2 years, 5 years for you? And that FB's stance on these models will still be open source at that time once they incrementally make improvements? Maybe, maybe not. But FB doesn't give anything away for free, and the fact that you think so is your blindness, not mine. In case you haven't figured it out, this isn't a technology problem, this is a "FB needs marketshare and it needs it fast" problem.


> But FB doesn't give anything away for free, and the fact that you think so is your blindness, not mine

Is it, though? They are literally giving this away "for free". https://dev.to/llm_explorer/llama3-license-explained-2915 Unless you build a service with it that has over 700 million monthly users (read: "problem anyone would love to have"), you do not have to re-negotiate a license agreement with them. Beyond that, it can't "phone home" or do any other sorts of nefarious shite. The other limitations there, which you can plainly read, seem not very restrictive.

Is there a magic secret clause conspiracy buried within the license agreement that you believe will be magically pulled out at the worst possible moment? >..<

Sometimes, good things happen. Sorry you're "too blinded" by past hurt experience to see that, I guess


Yeah but Google and MS have the same problems.. What your talking about is the reality of using a computer connected to the internet since 2003.


But they don't bullshit about it as much and their offerings are much cheaper and it's easier to not have to pay as much (either with data or money).

There is just a general hypocrisy about Apple that is hilarious.


This is true, but your examples aren't directly trying to pretend they are the better alternatives for that. Apple is doing its best to paint itself as some golden company when reality dictates they are no better (if honestly worse in some categories).


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