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Another poster child for Meta's lobbying (bribery) to encourage OS level age verification. (numerous recent references in HN posts)

They very much want to push this liability off onto someone else...

As far as end-to-end encryption, on SM sites (social media or SadoMasochism, however you want to read it) I don't really see the need.


> As far as end-to-end encryption, on SM sites (social media or SadoMasochism, however you want to read it) I don't really see the need.

You don't see any benefit to allowing people to encrypt their private communications in a way that can't be accessed by the company?

It's weird to see tech news commenters swing from being pro-privacy to anti-privacy when the topic of social media sites come up.


Meta has a way to read your E2EE messages. I don't know what it is, but if they didn't then they wouldn't do it.

There's a difference between E2EE between friends who want to remain secure, and E2EE between strangers in an attempt for the platform to avoid legal liability for spam.


for an account 41 days old you participate in a lot of controversial topic threads.

> Another poster child for Meta's lobbying (bribery) to encourage OS level age verification. (numerous recent references in HN posts)

The references I saw showed Meta had lobbied for some of the laws that require age verification be done by the site or by third party ID services. They did not show that Meta lobbied for any of the OS bills.

Some showed that Meta had lobbied in some of the states with those bills, but they just showed Meta's total lobbying budget for those states.


You were downvoted, but right. Meta wants to be able to say, "hey, the OS said she was 18!" and not get in trouble for it.

Online child exploitation should be a strict liability offense.


How does this apply to, say, Signal?

That's why Signal requires a phone number. You can't talk to people you don't know because complete strangers don't give you their phone number. And if you do spam random numbers, they'll report you to the police and you can be tracked down based on your identifier, which still doesn't leak the chats between you and people you actually know.


GTM? Does that mean Get The Money?

Assuming everyone knows your acronyms is just not a good writing style.

Since I couldn't understand how s/w was going to get opossums out of anyone's basement, I think the correct decision was made: hands on!

You deserve accolades for making this choice. Good Job!

Like any physical trade, this is by it's nature a local only endeavor. So a web presence that is primarily visible to geographically local potential customers would be most effective.

Any aggregation is really just a way to skim some of the profits from the people actually doing the job. That is to say, GTM according to my definition above.

Personally, when I can't get an in-real-life personal referral to some trade, and I'm forced to do web search, I always spend extra time to try to find a web page that is put up by a local company, not an aggregator.

Things like plumers.com (this is a totally made up example, not referring to any real website) I find to be extremely irritating. Since they have absolutely nothing to do with whoever will eventually show up and do the work.

This form of aggregation through, is extremely common today, and a very large part of why the modern internet sucks.

craigslist.com (the actual website) used to be a good example of referring local services, until it was overrun with spammers and scammers.

Will this correct? Will we proceed to the dead internet? Who knows! What next weeks exciting episode to find out...


Go to market - e.g. how to sell your thing.

For residential / consumer markets, referrals are the gold standard and I agree to an extent about the local focus. A lot of PE (private equity) backed roll-ups result in a worse customer and worker experience as they try to force scale too fast.

Some PE companies will open a local market by initiating acquisition conversations with all local players, low ball everyone, buy some and for a short period dramatically reduce pricing to force the hold-out cohort to sell at an even lower price. Not good for communities.

The unlock to balancing scale and customer / worker experience is creating the right incentives for people to adopt the behaviors you're after. This is why bolting on SaaS or AI to established companies is tough, as the staff often don't want to change and will leave - which is bad in a tight labor market.

Searching for home services online is totally broken and is a tax on buyers and operators. HVAC contractors pay on average $600 for a closed lead from online ads, and close about one in four / one in five leads.


I read it as Google Tag Manager, lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go-to-market_strategy

GTM is ubiquitous on the business side.

If you read his post, there's significant effort not "catching opossums" but waiting or churning through admin overhead - wasted time, which maybe he can translate into $. This much inefficiency is...common in many businesses.


s/w? Does that mean sidewalk?

bizarre take and writing style. if the saas enables them to be more efficient it's overall net positive

Yes!

There are other interesting things in the world today, and HN is overwhelmed with pretend intelligence.

Hype, detractors, ALL OF IT!

Maybe a separate web page or RSS feed could be created that is dedicated to the subject...


I still don't like them, human or pretend intelligence generated.

Please use the correct punctuation for subclauses, the comma!

However, I will give the comment author credit for _correctly_ surrounding the dash with spaces.

This is my biggest bitch about the punctuation, it's used without spaces, making it indistinguishable from hyphenation.

Written english is a space delimited language! The exception of the hyphen is to explicitly create one word by connecting several.



Exactly! and no small amount of money is being set aside either:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_...

And as you would expect in a Fortune Mag article, the "solution" of this budget shortafall is to fuck the people more.

Reigning in the totally out of control budget for incinerating people should have come long ago, but is unspeakable for major shareholders of the people incineration industry.

Or using the thing that no right-wing talking head is ever going to acknowledge in resolving budget shortfalls, increasing income (i.e. taxes)

This is especially true given the modern massive wealth gap, in which the highest earners pay a fraction of the percentage paid by working people.


Obviously, bigfoot hasn't been seen again because he went back to his UFO...

I don't see how a new unicode point solves anything.

What stops any generated text from using this codepoint versus the existing em dash codepoint?

I find the punctuation annoying, mostly because the dashes are routinely used without a space on each side. Thus making the text look hyphenated.

The comma serves the same purpose and is superior in every way.


So glad to see a mention of Smedley Butler!

He has been a long time hero of mine.

After a career pillaging for US corporate interests abroad, he realized he was being used, and presented his "pamphlet" to the US legislature, and toured giving anti-war speeches.

War _is_ a racket!!!

The fact that we're still dismembering and incinerating each other, to decide which rich asshat gets the goods, is the primary indicator that humans are still a primitive primate species...


I'm, again, glad to run linux. The distro I run has no affiliated online "account" at all, and I would expect this exempts it from the requirement.

I'm no democrat, although I'm sure as hell no republican, and as a resident of the state, I'm also a routine critic of the California state government.

I agree that a lot of their activities are indeed, performance art in nature.

However I do agree with the identification requirements on guns and ammo.

You can't shoot someone with a computer, no matter what OS you run.

The idea that lethal weaponry is the same as any other consumer product is just not accurate.


It's about as easy to restrict the proliferation of firearms and ammunition as it is to restrict the proliferation of open source software. Anyone can make functional firearms out of supplies from any hardware store, this is true regardless of how many laws you pass. Look at the weapon that was used to assassinate Shinzo Abe. That was manufactured and used in a country with gun control laws that basically make California's gun control look indistinguishable from Texas. No number of laws have ever or will ever stop criminals with a rudimentary grasp of basic physics and basic chemistry.

You can't put the genie of firearms back in the bottle any more than Hollywood can put the genie of p2p file sharing back in the bottle. Trying to do so is like trying to unscramble eggs. It doesn't matter how valid your desires or justifications for attempting to so are, it's an act of banging your own head against the cold, hard wall of reality.


It's a logical mistake to say that because an extremely motivated person can still cause harm somehow that implies no regulation or policy can have any positive impact anywhere.

I don't have a stance here on what "the right" policies around gun control are but it is clearly a much wider field than just a preplanned assassination with diy parts.

A non-exhaustive list of a few very different scenarios that are all involved with anything touching or rejecting gun control:

- highly motivated, DIY-in-the-basement assassination plots like you mentioned - hunting for food - hunting for fun - wilderness safety - organized crime and gang related violence - mass shootings at things like concerts, sporting events, colleges. Sub point of mass shootings at schools where the law requires children to be. - gun violence involved with suddenly escalating impromptu violence like road rage and street/bar fights - systematic intimidation / domestic terrorism of particular groups or areas - gun related suicides

All of these are very very different. None of them have perfect answers but that doesn't make thinking about it "an act of banging your own head against the cold, hard wall of reality" nor does it make anyone interested in working on some of these problems naive or stupid like you imply.

If you're being earnest or maybe jaded, I'd say dont give up hope and don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

If you're just being a dick then so be it, maybe someone else gets something out of this comment.


> It's a logical mistake to say that because an extremely motivated person can still cause harm somehow that implies no regulation or policy can have any positive impact anywhere

That kind of mistake is common here, but I don't think it is due to a failure of logic. I think it is something deeper.

I've noticed that people who have worked deeply and/or a long time as developers tend to lose the ability to see things as a continuum. They see them as quantized, often as binary.

That's also why there are so many slippery slope arguments made around here that go from even the most mild initial step almost immediately to a dystopian hellscape.

This is prevalent enough that it arguably should be considered an occupational hazard for developers and the resultant damage to non-binary thinking ability considered to be a work related mental disability with treatment for it covered by workers compensation.

A way to protect against developing this condition is to early in your career seriously study something where you have to do a lot of non-binary thinking and there are often aren't any fully right answers.

A good start would be make part of the degree requirement for a bachelor's degree in computer science (and maybe any hard science or engineering) in common law countries a semester of contract law and a semester of torts. Teach these exactly like those same courses are taught in first year law school. Both contracts and torts are full of things that require flexible, non-binary, thinking.


This doesn't have anything to do with democrats and republicans, considering that this bill passed unanimously through every committee and both chambers.


Political office in general attracts the sort of people who like the "performance art" parts of it. It doesn't attract the sorts of people who like "getting things done" because the political process by design moves at a snail's pace, and if you actually solved problems you would remove issues run on in the next campaign.


> You can't shoot someone with a computer, no matter what OS you run.

No, you can just target-lock them. The computer database (and now, LLM) is probably the biggest threat to freedom in existence. You can keep your popgun. They'll know where it is, and come with bigger ones.

China be doing some pretty heavy-duty damage with computers, but age-gates won't stop them.


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