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Right? "I had this one contingent experience and I've built my entire world view and set of practices around it."

Yes, and that happens.

The malicious code was added to package.json, not yarn.lock

Yup. That's correct. And I understand that. I was looking at the changes to yarn.lock that got reintroduced. I couldn't figure out what was happening. It turns out that not only was it force pushed, but GitHub also retains the old commit information even if it's been "deleted".

I still don't quite understand what GitHub is doing to allow someone to say that dependabot coauthored a spoofed commit. This isn't the commit message itself I'm talking about. It's the GitHub interface that officially recognizes this as a dependabot co authored commit. My hunch is that the malicious author squashed two commits, the original good commit to yarn.lock and a malicious change to package.json, and that somehow maintains the dependabot authorship instead of reassigning it fully to the squash-er.


> I'm willing to believe

Well there you have it. That has nothing to do with truth, only an emotional inclination. For instance, you are strongly inclined to believe the claims in the comment you responded to, despite it being almost entirely BS.



What do you believe? The news?

Does anybody believe the lone gunman theory with JFK? Nobody buys the official narrative.

Plenty of people do, alongside the preponderance of evidence.

Indeed. Two years after the assassination I wrote a paper on it for a summer school history class. I researched in the local public library, where I read a bunch of magazine articles and Mark Lane books, blissfully unaware of ideological agendas and bad faith, and believed there was a conspiracy--though I didn't know which theory was correct because there were so many and they only increased in the ensuing years. At one point I had a shelf of JFK conspiracy books and then I met the author of one, an ex-boyfriend of friend ... he was very sincere about his incredibly looneytunes claims (https://www.amazon.com/Best-Evidence-Disguise-Deception-Assa...)

It wasn't until usenet came along and I encountered debates between physicists and conspiracy cranks that I started to question it--the physicists would calmly present solid-seeming arguments and the cranks would accuse them of working for the CIA and post malarkey. But I still wasn't sure--a bad argument for something isn't a good argument against it. My biggest breakthrough was when I was dating a law professor whom I greatly respected, very liberal (as am I)--she was the cofounder of the Women's Studies program at UCLA--and she was bemused by my entertaining the conspiracy theories as at all likely (no one in her academic, legal, and feminist circles did), and she casually mentioned that one of the first things she learned in law school was that people are highly unreliable in judging the direction that a sound comes from, so people talking about shots coming from the grassy knoll didn't really mean anything. Her attitude drove me to dig deeper, and when the web came along I found https://www.jfk-assassination.net/ (it was located elsewhere back then). I started seeing all the counterarguments to the misrepresentations in those books and articles I had read, and this was before Bugliosi's 1600 page https://www.amazon.com/Reclaiming-History-Assassination-Pres...

I now know about as well as one can know any historical event that LHO, a man who had defected to the USSR, possibly planning on giving them information about the U-2 (for which he was denounced by U-2 pilot Gary Powers) and had been on TV representing the "Fair Play For Cuba Committee" (of which he was the only member), was the lone gunman. That doesn't mean that his story was simple--it wasn't, and that's part of the fuel for appallingly ignorant and intellectually dishonest conspiracy theories.

It's sad to see on HN claims that no one believes what is believed to be actually true by rational informed people, along with questions like

> What do you believe? The news?

(I haven't had a TV for at least 20 years; what does he believe, YouTube? I know how to gather and weigh information; he doesn't) grossly dishonest assertions that

> pizza gate was corroborated by the epstein emails

and nonsensical ignorant claims about UFOs that are supported by terrible reporting by ignorant sensationalist journalists. It is almost certain that there is intelligent life elsewhere in this vast universe, but there is no evidence that any of them are the cause of our UAPs and many reasons from logic and physics why they aren't and could not be.


> It is almost certain that there is intelligent life elsewhere in this vast universe, but there is no evidence that any of them are the cause of our UAPs and many reasons from logic and physics why they aren't and could not be.

No one is saying that, there is just a history of the government using UFO/"alien" conspiracy theories as disinformation to discredit sightings of classified aircraft, which themselves are mundane and nothing special: https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/ufo-us-disinf... - https://archive.ph/3bTMz

NASA already addressed UAPs[1], they're just misidentification of things like passenger aircraft

[1] NASA's channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQcqOW39ksk


> Its really unlikely that a theory circulates widely but has no basis in reality

No, this is not at all true. For example, the only "truth" of BigFoot is the hoax video that many people are emotionally inclined to think isn't a hoax. The only "truth" in Qanon is the messages that Q wrote. Pizzagate was believed by people emotionally inclined to believe that Hillary drinks children's blood. And on and on. Did the government fake the moon landing? Many people believe so, despite no "truth" to it. Is the Earth flat but NASA is conspiring to tell people it's a globe? Is evolution a hoax? There are reasons that these circulate widely despite having no truth to them.


> pizza gate was corroborated by the epstein emails.

LOL. That doesn't even warrant a response.


pizza gate was corroborated by the epstein emails. not all of it, but plenty

Right? But it's now HN policy ... look at how many of kindkang2024's comments are dead.

Yes, but HN is dominated by the latter aggressively irrational folks. Look at how many of kindkang2024's comments with perfectly reasonable content are dead--the nuttiness has infiltrated mod policy.

Neither mikkupikku nor ghurtado seem to care.

This is apparently a RW projection zone. You won't get anywhere with these people.

Dozens of innocents (5% of 1250 = 63) killed "extrajudicially" (i.e., illegally) by the drones that are the subject of the article, and those deaths were dismissed by the rationalization in the comment they replied to.

If you can't handle additional context being brought to the conversation, maybe its best for you to duck out.

So much projection here from RWers, as usual. I will bow out of this, due to the massive levels of intellectual dishonesty and bad faith.

"if you can't handle being an adult you should leave"

"I shall leave"


"Everybody who disagrees with me is le Nazi!"

Get a grip.


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