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Yes I'm aware of that. In my experience, the companies I worked for that are functioning properly is typically more than 60% effort dedicated to sales. It's about business development, partnering. But to me it's still a problem of the chicken and the egg. Because I'm also seeing tremendous obstacles in sales when the underlying product isn't a good one.


I'm sympathetic to seeing it as a chicken-egg problem because I do the same myself.

But I know that sales is both the chicken and the egg.

A company can sell other people's products and be a good business.

The only problem with that is that I don't get to make stuff.


Good idea. Although most likely I'm serving a dev shop in the middle, not the end user. So I doubt they would contribute.


Yeah, you would need to cut the middleman in on the deal somehow, or sideline them in an unobtrusive way (for example, set up or join industry-specific consortiums that will own the combined training data sets rather than you, but you help define the standards for that data).

You might find these interesting:

https://blog.gardeviance.org/2013/02/attack-defend-and-dark-...

https://blog.gardeviance.org/2015/12/open-source-as-weapon.h...


Interesting read, thanks. Although in my life as a developer, I tend to avoid relying on seemingly open-source project that has a well-funded company behind. The "open source as a weapon" idea is probably more suitable for big corporations. And few people consider controlling an intermediary (like data) as "control". If I own the data, I'd rather choose a "real open-source project" to consume it, not something that could end up charging me a fortune in the future. Without the foundation software work, data is nothing. It can't be easy to get people onboard.


Hands down, the fake landing page idea is genius!


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