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Haha, nuke and pave as a first resort rather than a last resort.


Over the years I went from making fun of Windows Admins rebooting to fix everything, to, say, 12 years ago rebooting my unix boxes any time I made a change.

Virtually by definition if I was changing something, it wasn't in production at the moment, and I just learned my life was so much easier if I made sure my changes were really committed to state at the moment I made the change rather than learning it the hard way at 2am 6 months down the road, and desperately trying to remember what I had "fixed" and why.

Granted, these were still pets, but at least they were well-trained pets.


Sounds straight from a 90's Microsoft marketing department, I'm glad not everyone listened back then.

More users is definitely a feature though.


tbh microsoft was the best choice in the 90s.

the only reason linux became useful is because it became popular.


For some domains, But certainly not all, Windows was arguably a better choice, but even then it was more Windows NT vs Novell than Unix.

I don’t recall Microsoft ever getting much traction in the racks of ISPs or in “big iron” installations, not until the late 90s... and even then it was tenuous.

Microsoft was a terrible choice for IP networking, for example. Changing the IP address of a server would require a reboot.

The majority of the work I did in the 90s was on HPUX and DGUX, but also a bunch of others. There was a lot more OS diversity back in the day.


only for very particular, and peculiar, senses of 'best'


Ah, another reminder of Jason Scott's talk https://youtu.be/qh7EARxkxoU?list=PL7WR9B9eZNmxm8_LzP1Qf8xnN...


Did you have the information necessary to make the correct decision? Most problems or failures I've encountered in software come to missing information much more often than any other reason. Having justifications for the decisions you reach given the information you had available should lead you to feeling confident in the actions you take. No one has all the pertinent information available at all times, and anyone who acts that way is disingenuous.

I believe it is human nature to put more emphasis on failure than success, but I also believe that people set themselves up for failure by assuming that their decisions are somehow flawed compared to others. Most decisions we make are based on incomplete information, so the only recourse is to build stating your justifications with your decisions so that others's may review them in the light of the information you had available.


Anyone else remember the "Summer of Love"? [1]

I had stopped attempting to answer or ask anything on the site due to the behavior I observed. It was pure gamesmanship for people trying to rack up their SO score and then summarily abuse it with enforcement of opaque, draconian rules. My favorite was when a question would be marked as a duplicate incorrectly, so what was the takeaway? That solution was barred from discussion on the site?

Since then I simply look at SO when it happens to come up in a search. I'm not ever logged into the site anymore. If I want to describe how I fixed something, I do it in my own space, and only reference answer when linking to SO.

1. https://stackoverflow.blog/2012/07/20/kicking-off-the-summer...


God creates dinosaurs, god destroys dinosaurs, god creates man, man destroys god, man creates dinosaurs.


Embrace, extend, and extinguish.


then exploit!


E-mail remains one of the last decentralized communication mediums. If Google can make it a walled garden, they will.


There's no reason we have to interact with gmail at all. The time has come for a lightweight, client-side layer on top of email+pgp providing a new social network.


The fact that so many people who otherwise care about things like privacy, freedom, and competition all flocked to gmail anyway always seemed completely bananas to me. It's like a case study in how principle (or even long term self-interest) always loses to convenience.


I'm guilty as charged. I even sought out a Gmail Beta* invite back in the day. At the time I was naive and believed Google's "don't be evil" marketing.

*I later also sought out a Google+ Beta invite. That one is harder to justify with just naïveté.


Many of us did this back in the day, and now we're stuck with our gmail addresses.


No, you're not.

It might be a pain to move, but it is certainly possible, and it's certainly worth the effort.


Just be grateful you aren't stuck with a Yahoo address ;-). Owning your own domain name(s) is worth a few bucks a month.


In order to avoid interacting with it at all, you'd have to check the MX records of the domains behind the e-mail addresses of every one of your contacts, and then stop e-mailing the ones who use gmail.

They've gone out of their way to become impossible to reasonably avoid.

Regulatory action is the only thing that will stop them from completely destroying the concept of decentralization on the internet.


I refuse to use Discord because I don't know how or to whom they are going to sell my data yet. It's possible they go to a subscription model but I doubt it, it seems more likely they'll be acquired by one of the big data brokers at some point.


Discord already has a subscription model (nitro).

They tried to pivot themselves into a game store, but that appears to not have gone particularly well.

Not too sure on the privacy front. I don't believe they sell any user data, yet.


Hopefully they won't provide chat data or metrics to others. If Discord were acquired or partnered with anyone shady, they are certainly in a position to Big-Data-AI (and other bs bing words) everyone. They brag about storing all messages. [1]

[1] - https://blog.discordapp.com/how-discord-stores-billions-of-m...


Getting acquired is their business model.


>Not too sure on the privacy front. I don't believe they sell any user data, yet.

Oh please. The CEO's last company got sued for that and this time he made sure to make it obvious in the ToS.


How do you think they provide a FREE service...in there TOS it says they mine all data you put on discord and essentially resell it...It's been shitcords way since Day 1....If you don't see that IDK what to tell you cause people just don't HAND out free services unless they are getting something in return


Good point, I remember the game storefront being announced but had not heard about their subscriptions.

I still wouldn't recommend using it for anything because of the potential gold mine they have with the user data. I can imagine Tencent or someone similar coming in for the data alone.


> but that appears to not have gone particularly well. source? numbers? leaks?


I felt similarly until I re-framed my expectations. I think of it as speaking in public -- even if I'm in a direct message with a single other user, I imagine it's like sitting next to them in a coffee shop. Probably nobody is listening to me speak, but I won't be surprised if I'm overheard by people. Not a perfect analogy but eh.

For hanging out with people and just having casual conversations I think it's fine. Don't say anything you want kept private. I do think it's unfortunate that people don't consider where their data is going or how it's used on a broader scale, but for those of us who use technology more intimately I think we can afford to make these sorts of decisions. I'm happy with the convenience and the interface and I'm okay knowing that the communications are likely going to end up in the hands of some big marketing company some day.


"Probably nobody is listening to me speak, but I won't be surprised if I'm overheard by people. Not a perfect analogy but eh."

Which is fine, except the analogy in this case is someone who is always sitting next to you and has access to all your conversational history - which may be public in isolation but private in aggregate.


Yea, the person sitting next to you doesn't have your entire chat history and a server farm to de-anonymize you.


Their model is to sell video games, and that has been clear for years before properly announced.

That doesn't mean they can't also sell your data, but if your root concern is where they're getting their revenue, game sales is where.


Which doesn't mean they won't do both -- because prosaically their costs are going to be higher than Steam.


I doubt that's a viable business model for Discord. It feels like something to go after in order to reassure reactions like the one you were replying to. (Plus any money never hurt anyone, but it doesn't seem viable at all).


>I don't know how or to whom they are going to sell my data yet

You do know though, absolutely everyone. Read their ToS and they make it pretty obvious.


What?

- The ToS has nothing to do with data usage

- The privacy policy explicitly states they don't sell user data

- Multiple employees are on the record as saying they don't

- There's no evidence they do

- They've said that nitro subscriptions and game selling are done to avoid ever needing to do ads/data selling.

- They're VC funded to the tune of over $100 million and thus have taken their time with monetization options.

Discord "selling data" is nothing more than a (very) weak conspiracy theory.


They have a subscription model (Reddit gold style) and also sell games.


I would say the modern state of surveillance capitalism is in a large part what rms warned about with proprietary systems being used against the user.


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