Well look, the sales pitch for SIT is that you get most of the HIIT goodness at three minutes per day of exercise. Now to hit the required intensity… how much is an indoor bike anyways?
Yes they are. Materials used for safer, less painful suicide methods (such as helium) are made purposely hard to get. Plus the authorities will lock you in a psych ward if they find out about your intent.
Problem is that it's not all-or-nothing. Lots of activities have failure modes that leave you severly disabled for the rest of your existence, even unable to do any of the standard suicide activities or even speak/write.
That's all worse than having another decade of a good life.
Or perhaps even a broken hip that never heals is not too great. Now you won't just get dementia, but you'll do so while you can't even go to the toilet yourself even on your clear days.
> - Being frozen in Antarctica, in case medical technology improves in a century or two to the point where I can be revived and cured.
Given that cryonics is currently essentially just a scam, you might just as well. For all practical purposes, it's equivalent to killing. (Legally, you need to have just died though, in most Western countries, so I think you don't actually have this option.)
Or you meant just traveling there, going on an extended hike from which you don't return because you just purposely one day didn't get out of your tent. That's not a pleasent way to die though, and nobody is going to go there 300 years from now to unthaw you.
> - If none of that is possible, do something interesting and dangerous. For example, if my brain is going anyways, experimenting with drugs and dying by drug overdose seems like a decent way to go.
How do you know that a drug overdose is a pleasant experience? You could be hallucinating the most terrible things in the world for as it may feel like an eternity. Unless you are talking about sleep medication, but then again, just taking a bunch of sleeping pills is not different from a "classical" suicide.
The cryogenics industry is a scam, but I'm more optimistic of the progress of the potential progress of technology. I'm not going to describe what's going to happen, since I think there's an infinite number of options, but I'll give one scenario:
- Machine learning advances, and we have LLM-like/SD-like models for the human brain, which can reconstruct a plausible brain from limited data.
- DNA preserves pretty well (and again, see above for restoring from degradation).
- There is an archive of what I look and behave like
It's not beyond the realm of plausibility that in a few hundred years:
- "Frozen in Antarctica in a concrete container" will preserve enough data to reconstruct a person
- We'll have bioengineering technology to do so
- There will be enough curiosity about what people were like a millennium ago to try
Will it work? Probably not. However, it somehow moves this out of "suicide" into "morally acceptable" under my values.
> How do you know that a drug overdose is a pleasant experience?
Perhaps I'm more interested in interesting experiences than pleasant ones. Again, you're trying to map your values onto me.
Humans being inherently social animals, I'd say that nature is objecting here.
Don't succumb to the strong selection bias that is the HN nerd crowd. Obviously over here we like to solitarily sit at our machines at home. We'd do that even if nobody paid us. And for those of us who trive with that, the remote work revolution was a blessing since it at least opened up those options and employers are recognizing the benefits (happier workers, more productivity, less cost for office space).
But we are not representative, so let's be careful with extrapolating
In fact, many people who strongly prefer working from home prefer it because they can socialize more with people they actually prefer to socialize with: family, relatives, neighbors
Sure, but it’s not like socializing isn’t necessary in business. While obviously public spaces can (and are) used for much of that, sometimes you need a private space for that aspect as well.
Lots of business will continue to have some office space, if only for in-person meetings, or for people to work from the office on days that they have meetings.
I do think that there are intangible benefits that come from being at the office in person, but I work remotely 98% of the time, so I’ve clearly made my decision as to the trade-offs lmfao
FWIW, the fraction of co-workers I like to socialize with is significantly higher than the corresponding value for neighbors.
Liking my co-workers is an important part of good workplace culture for me, and if I wouldn't like them then it would be time for me to go look for a new job. Unfortunately, I'm less flexible regarding my housing situation.
Time-wise, I work about 50 hours a week, which is about an order of magnitude more than I'm even near my neighbors.
First 6 years I walked to school. Most of my friends either did that or took a bicycle. Next 6 years I took a street car. To/from school as well as afternoon activities.
This was in the 90s in Europe. Where I live now (still in Europe), all my friends have their kids to the same thing.
There is the occasional parent who shuttles the kid to/from school. They either live in some inaccessible place in the countryside or they are weird (or both). The kids that need shuttling by their parents actually have a social disadvantage since they don't get to spontaneously hangout with their friends and do stuff. Everything needs to be coordinated and scheduled and approved with/by their parents. Poor kids.
I'm too busy bindging the next Netflix series. Anybody have good recommendations?
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