Can't read tutorial on mobile

Yeah, I couldn't make the tutorial work well on mobile since it has to show quite a lot at the same time. Rather than forcing it into a mobile view I decided to keep it as is. I might revisit that in the future and do something similar to svelte's tabbed interface.

The website is completely blank white for my samsung s7 android edge browser (but works fine on android chrome). If this was written using your framework, there's probably a bug that's causing it not to render.

Do you perhaps know the version of the browser? Thank you for reporting anyways and I'll take a look!

You'll eventually need js. If server side renders html, now your client is coupled to server side both on api and on html. That's bad.

Now 1 component will be: server side html, client side html, css and js.

>That's bad

Nice generalization. Tell to that to the thousands of absolutely massive companies running on server-rendered HTML how they need to adopt cutting edge JS.

That's why css in js is much better. Once your html is out, css is also out.

I'm the opposite, I despise anything angular, vue, knockout, that makes devs learn a new language.

React just uses js, almost plain.

That's a bit dramatic and inaccurate don't you think? Angular maybe comes closest to your definition of new language, but the rest is pretty much HTML with an @ sprinkled in. We've been using the same paradigm of double curly braces and such for quite a while. React may use more or less js, but I find it more mentally taxing to render or parse what is better expressed as HTML in a template. Outside of that, unless you've already been working with react a lot, the syntax of how data flows together is certainly not any more intuitive than Vue.

Just JS? What are those angled brackets in JS exactly?

But JSX is a whole new language on top of HTML and JS.

Otherwise you would have to write lengthy, nested createComponent calls.

Looks good. Sometimes I play this with friends https://multiplayerpiano.com/

You can play online at the same time with multiple people

I think it's wasted work/experience as css alone can't do everything.

Then you'll end up having a project with highlighting logic in css and js. That's less than optimal

Css will work until a certain point. What do you do when css can't handle?

Give up, do some super hacky unmaintainable css mess, or suck it up and use js...

The trouble generally is that JS is used despite the content being static, or independent of client behavior/usage.

That is, JS can be used to do everything but it is not optimal, or even near optimal (or even remotely close to) for many use cases. In terms of runtime or simplicity. But because it is capable and available, it has encroached into every niche (of html/css) until like any invasive species, it consumes and shreds through all available resources, collapses the whole ecosystem, and all complex creatures give way to a fresh start with new fairly rudimentary biology (wasm) trying to evolve towards and find a new stability point — hopefully one that does not invite a similar destructive species, but we’ll see how it goes

For example you can do a drop down menu in css. Then you have some new requirements that css alone can't do it.

Even a basic thing, could be impossible in css.

All your css logic goes to trash. Or you can keep css logic and make a mess of a software

If you have done it in js, you'd be able to reuse some code.

What do you mean, "can't handle?"

How do you plan to style it with javascript without CSS? Rendering directly to canvas?

How do you share code between client and server? That's key

Share code between client and server using WebAssembly[1]. The Twitch video player is written in C++ via WASM[2]. C# can be "full stack" with Blazor[3]. Rust can be "full stack" with Yew[4]. Similar support exists for other languages including Go[5] and even the TypeScript-syntax AssemblyScript[6].

[1]: https://medium.com/wasm/webassembly-on-the-server-side-c584f... [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16835769 [3]: https://dotnet.microsoft.com/apps/aspnet/web-apps/blazor [4]: https://github.com/yewstack/yew [5]: https://github.com/hexops/vecty [6]: https://www.assemblyscript.org/

They also don't allow you to encrypt data on first setup. So you need to first upload a few files unencrypted before you can set your key. That's why I'm not using them. Basic encryption feature is not thought well...

Why? Text messages are great because they pop up on my Mac too.

This - email and text notifications go everywhere for me. Web ones don’t follow what device I’m using