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Do you drive BMW or VW car? Boy do I have news for you!

Go on...make your case

VW was established by the nazis and was so excited at the conflict in Gaza they converted a factory into a missile factory recently to help the side that killed more journalists than in any other recorded conflict.

That's a very strange way to say that they sold it to a missile company. I'm pretty sure the new owner is responsible for converting it. Besides which, if they're Nazis then why would they care about protecting Jews?

Technically you could lump Ford in this category as well. But the meaningful delta IMO is time and direct ownership. None of those three are currently owned/operated by openly Nazi-aligned individuals / groups, which is not something I think you can claim about Tesla.

The current heads of BMW are not present day crazy Nazis or at the most charitable interpretation: fueling the far right around the world

No, no api access for the Grok product. APIs are only via the xAI product.

Pretty sure GitHub Enterprise Cloud is just Github hosting their enterprise server for you on Azure so you don't have to do the patching yourself.

It sure isn’t! GitHub Enterprise Cloud is simply an enterprise plan on the regular multitenant github.com. Your repositories are on disk right next to everyone else that uses github.com. There is no segregated storage or compute.

I wish they had a plan to literally host GHES for you because then more people in the company would be forced to reckon with how terrible GHES is from an operational perspective. It is stuck ca. 15-20 years ago conceptually.


GHEC is a terrible fucking product too and for the life of me I don't understand why they didn't use subdomains to namespace customers from each other and from github.com.

It should be mycompany.github.com because the way it is now, we have to rename all our damn repo orgs as we move from GHES to GHEC ("github.com/mycompany-org/repo") which is no guarantee either because anyone could create that org before is. All sorts of terrible UX falls out from not having name-spaced the GHEC customers.


Github enterprise cloud is on github.com and with more features: http://github.com/account/enterprises/new

They don't host github enterprise server for you (though gitlab has something called gitlab dedicated which they host gitlab ee for you).


Why is there an eu github status then ? https://eu.githubstatus.com/uptime

Data residency is a thing.

And how would that explain the way higher SLA ?

> X-Stat header that controls whether the server operates in enterprise mode.

Perhaps this header mentioned in the article is related, maybe that's the toggle for the enterprise mode? Seems there is at least traces of "enterprise mode" on the normal github servers.


There is no “the toggle”. Read the article. A GHES appliance (and github.com) is dozens of services working together, some of which act differently in ES mode, so there are toggles galore. But probably not a lot that can be toggled by user input :(

Pretty damming that two Microsoft subsidiaries - GitHub and LinkedIn - either shelved their forced migration to Azure or are looking at non-Azure options.

So they haven't even finished migrating from their datacenters to Azure and have now started a project to add another cloud provider ("multi cloud")? Madness.

I'm thinking the same. Downgrade to Pro and use OpenRouter (same price) for overage.

Seems a massive loss for Microsoft. Presumably there's a further rugpull to come.


> Presumably there's a further rugpull to come.

How would that be? They are already charging as much as the underlying providers. They can hardly expect to have any customers if they are charging more.


Enterprise sales will be the answer. Microsoft will have some story that convinces an exec eight levels up the org chart from the normal users that this is an essential product they need to overpay for. Given their existing relationshipsand immense sales team they'll probably have success.

That story is data governance. Corporate already have a data-agreement with MS, storing all their data there. Github copilot is covered by that, while a individual agreement with e.g. anthropic needs lawers involved.

It’s precisely this, and, to be fair, it’s a rational approach given a Data Security Exhibit starts at 6 weeks and can hit 6 months to complete. That being said, I work with regulated data, so YMMV.

Microsoft is simply the default answer for most large corporations. Getting access to some Microsoft subscription is very easy, because of the existing framework agreements, Microsoft providing any and all compliance slopuments needed and already being pre-cleared for corporate data etc. Meanwhile trying to use another provider (e.g. Anthropic) would be a one year endeavor, minimum.

Exactly this. I can't count the number of enterprises with their whole stack inside of Microsoft's ecosystem.

Many of these enterprises are grid-locked with the IT department and AI usage.


Plus if you're in government you have procurement to deal with. You already have an Enterprise deal with Microsoft so you don't have to go through any of that rigmarole.

Can confirm, this is the situation.

But if the org already has an agreement with Anthropic (and many do) then why pay GitHub…

We also pay $300/month for Azure Desktop VMs.

We are paying for tens of thousands of those machines, although everyone knows they are stupidly expensive and incredibly slow.


They list the price 900% higher and give a 90% discount to enterprises who also use teams, outlook, office or even windows if they're desperate. Then that becomes a deal so good that enterprises can't afford not to take it!

OpenRouter charges a 5% (?) fee for buying credits.

Yeah, but you get the benefit of using any model of your choice.

A very reasonable and fair markup that is clear and well articulated and not changing (at least so far) on a whim.

I think 5% is pretty solid, I am an OpenRouter user myself. Where I got screwed was enabling search on my requests, that jumped up my consumption a lot!

I'm already on Pro. Why should I keep it?

e.g. if on an annual plan? 0x will be gone, but there are okay 1x and 0.3x models left. I am pretty much curious how the early may test invoicing will look like. current setup of tools etc. is way too chatty eats up 1+M token per PRU easily. not sure how much is cached.

I had some 3x request that I did the math for fun on long running task, and at API price it would have been ~$260 that the in/out and cache. All that for $0.12.

Only reason to keep it is if you like their UX and auto-complete. Everything else is on pay per use and if you don't use all of it (good luck with the 5 hour and week caps) you have just paid more for the auto-complete

The deal is really pretty much garbage now and I believe that is the intent.


I use auto-complete mostly, so I'm somewhat relieved. When I do need to use the agent, I don't think I will use all of the tokens.

$10 a month for auto-complete on a good UX is good value IMHO.


private repos

Can you elaborate please? I still clone my private repos and work on them using OpenRouter Credits and OpenCode (or Copilot itself: It supports OpenRouter BYOK). No?

Copilot pro, not github pro

Also you can have private repos on GitHub Free.

Why would anyone stay on the Pro+ plan going forward? Pro with openrouter for Opus would be cheaper?

The naming is bad. VS Code Copilot Chat.

But its a really good UI for agentic coding. Not sure why more people don't use it. I've tried the others and keep coming back to Copilot chat. It's a really good tool. Which is why the rugpull on pricing is so concerning.


Current multipliers vs from June

  Opus 4.6  3x -> 27x
  Opus 4.7  3x -> 27x
  GPT  5.4  1x ->  6x
EDIT: only applies to annual plans

I think that only applies to held-over users on the annual plan:

> Users on annual Pro or Pro+ plans will remain on their existing plan with premium request-based pricing until their plan expires, however, model multipliers will increase on June 1 (see table).


There will surely be corresponding, different AI credit costs for each model.

"AI credits" are just US cents. The cost per model is here - and it looks like it is just the API providers API cost: https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing...

Kind of. Monthly users moving to an entire different pricing model so we don't really know what the increase in price will be for them.

Thanks this is helpful. I am on my first month of annual Pro. Should I keep it or cancel it (ask for a refund)?

It isn't just the big multiplier increase, they also say "...and no new models or features will be added to annual plans going forward."

Can you imagine ten months from now and you're still rolling Sonnet 4.6?

Cancel/refund is looking pretty good. They're doing refunds until May 20.

"To request a refund, go to Settings → Billing and licensing → Licensing, select Manage subscription, then choose Cancel and refund "subscription". (The phrasing varies slightly depending on your subscription ). This option will be available until May 20."


Appreciate the info. Have you got a similar opinion of the 'convert to monthly' option they've also provided?

Not apples for apples.

Before:

- Opus 4.6 each premium request is 3 premium requests

After:

- Opus 4.6 each dollar spent is 27 dollars in copilot AI Credits.

Given that you'll receive 19 dollars of AI Credits in Business plan, that means you can probably say 1 "hi" to opus per month.


It is an apples for apples comparison since those new multipliers only count if you are on an annual plan in which case the premium request system stays in place until you either cancel and get a refund or until your renewal comes up. https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/concepts/billing/usage-ba...

If you are not on an annual plan, multipliers will be gone completely. You can see the rates that apply instead here: https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing...


Based on the pricing and comparing to competitors e.g. bedrock[1] looks like cache-write will only be on 5 minute TTL.

[1]: https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/pricing/


Thanks for that link. Oddly the blog post didn't contain any of this information.

GPT 5.4mini is even worse, from 0.33x to 6x which is ~18 times more expensive now.

GPT-5.4 and GPT-5.4 mini are now the same price, which, why?

Those multipliers will only apply if you are currently on an annual subscription (and only until your renewal comes up or you cancel). So I assume they simply want to make it as unattractive as possible to get most people to cancel it and move to the token based system.

That's not an answer. It's specifically a discrepancy between 5.4 and 5.4-mini. If you look at all other models/generations you see that the cheaper model indeed has a lower multiplier. It's very strange that only 5.4 doesn't have this.

both 5.4 were best bang (-mini even more as I found it usually same well performing!!!) for the buck before. Now they face cost reality it seems.

GPT 4.1 had a multiplier of 0.

This is quite the rug pull.

I've been using the Pro+ with Opus 4.6 very successfully and being charged 3x rate was mostly acceptable.

But removing Opus 4.6 and replacing with Opus 4.7 with a 7x rate is just insane!


Note that the 7.5x multiplier is only for the promotional period (until end of April), then it'll get even worse. If I had to guess it'll be priced at 10x.

I got in there quick yesterday with a refund once they pulled 4.6 and got my last month of about 1200 premium prompts free, nice.

If they don’t give refunds I can just do a charge back. It’s not what I paid for.

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