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statements on wikipedia are summarized from sources, LLMs once trained on wikipedia to summarize, can then summarize on their own from the source material, and probably with less bias

there are videos out of piles of bodies in hospital morgues, other videos of live firing at crowds as well as testimonials

according to iranian government sources talking with nytimes there are 3000 dead


> other videos of live firing at crowds as well as testimonials

I haven’t seen any of these and I have been looking.

> morgues

I did find this one: https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2026/jan/12/bodies-l...

It doesn’t appear to be anywhere near thousands, but covered bodies have been put out onto the street, so something is going on there.



Usually over-representative of the unemployed, angry, lonely and obsessed

I'd go for "retired, angry, lonely and obsessed"

Edit: I'm 60 in case anyone thinks I'm being ageist


That spells out "ORAL" which is very fitting for a vocal minority.

unjustified preferential treatment over jpegxl a format google also had created

They helped create jpegXL but they are not the sole owner like they are with webp. There is a difference.

a better argument might be that chrome protects their own vs a research group in google switzerland, however as other mentioned the security implications of another unsafe binary parser in a browser is hardly worth it


which only strengthens my argument, webp seemed like some ad-hoc pet project in chrome, and that ended like most unsafe binary parsers, with critical vulnerabilities

> webp seemed like some ad-hoc pet project in chrome

FWIW webp came from the same "research group in google switzerland" that later developed jpegxl.


I now see that webp lossless is definitely from there, but the webp base format looks acquired from a US startup, was the image format also adapted in the swiss group?

I think the issue here is not the books being read but rather the people being shot

I agree that Israel has largely won the war to an extent that greatly reduced the fear the regime created in its own citizens which hastened this current protests

I am less convinced this is the end though, but maybe another step in a slow death of the regime. Regarding your last point, this is already happening, now that Iran is weak the KSA has less of an interest to ally with Israel and it shifts to allying its previous rivals of Qatar and Turkey along with Pakistan


Surely saying that Jordan and the UAE are one of the most aggressive dictatorships in the context of discussing Iran is sarcasm I am missing

> The regime was organically declining in popularity. Israel’s war simply rejuvenated the regime’s supporter base without any meaningful gains on the ground.

That is a statement that might make sense two weeks ago, but now? Evidently the effect Israel war had was not enough to prevents riots, or arguably might have emboldened them


1. If you look closely, Western media is operating a coordinated campaign that is more interested than usual in what’s happening in Iran.

2. The scale of the protests is very likely overblown.

3. Iran’s purging of Mossad assets since the 12 day war has not yet wrapped up. The CIA is rumored to also have assets participating in these riots.


1. Far less interested than in Gaza, for example

2. Hard to tell yet, there are videos that at least claim to show hundreds of dead which indicate both mass shooting and mass demonstrations

3. The issue is that like in USSR, any political prisoner given enough torture admits spying. So you can't really tell which are and which aren't. I wouldn't put much trust on Iranian media on that matter, especially when they only point at external enemies when there have been repeating demonstrations for years and life has only turned progressively worse for the Iranian people


1. Give me a call when the repression of local protests escalates into a 2 year long Western backed campaign of ethnic cleansing and genocide against a blockaded population.

2. Agree that it’s hard to tell for certain.

3. The truth is somewhere in between. My reading is that Mossad is definitely operating on the ground in some capacity.


1. Well, we are digressing to the Gaza conflict, but calling it a genocide is probably just a form of turning up the volume on social media to generate some engagement. It is hardly similar to real mass murders whose goal was destruction of entire nations, that it requires people using the word to ignore the fact of reality that there was no real attempt at destroying the Palestinian people in Gaza. The argument then consequently turns to some legal reading that reduces the crime of genocide to "death of any amount of civilians", to the point it only serves to reduce the crime of real acts of genocide

3. Yes, it showed impressive operational capacity on the ground during the war. However, trying to attribute the protests solely to Israeli intelligence both gives too much credit to Israel, and uses the same mechanism in point 1 that erases the more uncomfortable parts of reality to keep a predefined political idea coherent.

To highly paraphrase, in order to create a myth you shouldn't be concerned with what you remember but with what you forget


We clearly disagree on Gaza, but you brought it up.

But my point with the comparison is that the protests in their current form are not worthy of this level of coordinated international coverage. The fact that this ramp up in coverage coincides with rhetoric from multiple governments signaling that regime change is a short term goal raises suspicion.

Also, nowhere did I say that the Mossad is somehow pulling the strings behind the scenes. They are definitely one factor behind these protests, along with the pro-Shah contingent inside and outside the country, as well as serious anti-regime elements inside the country. The latter is a minority thanks to the 12 day war, which comes back to my initial point.


Example wrong claims:

1. Jolani was propped up by Turkey not Israel, their relations are still tense. E.g. Jolani has been massacring the Druze which are Israel's allies, while Israel-Turkey relations are only getting worse.

Unsure where so many get the idea Israel is excited about an ISIS veterans regime on its border that regularly massacres civilians including on-brand mass rapes, kidnappings, beheadings, cutting hearts out etc

The US had previously imprisoned Jolani and had a 10 million reward on his head until 2024, so, that also doesn't align with your narrative

2. Western governments make sure not to meet the crown prince in a state setting or using high dignities, as to limit their support

3. The Shah government was terrible in some respects but still arguably superior to the current one, in any case hopefully Iranians can find their own new way once they get rid of their current fascist theocracy

4. There is no real evidence that the local revolts are supported by the US or Israel. It is naturally the regime propaganda stance as authoritarian regimes usually turn the blame outwards rather than face their failures (environmental disaster, raging inflation, sanctions, complete regional defeat, unwanted religious laws)

5. Not many dictators in the region historically "accepted Israel's dominance" so I don't think you have many supporting points for your sweeping statements


>Jolani was propped up by Turkey not Israel

Probably accurate, but I think if Israel sincerely objected to Jolani's leadership in Syria, a state visit to the White House would not have happened.

Read into that what you will.


> Unsure where so many get the idea Israel is excited about an ISIS veterans regime on its border that regularly massacres civilians including on-brand mass rapes, kidnappings, beheadings, cutting hearts out etc

Perhaps because they openly provided support to them for years: https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/report-israel-treating-al-...


That has been a case of "the enemy of my enemy" as the Al Nusra Islamists had still considered Israel as infidels that need to be eventually be dealt with.

Israel more pressing Islamist threat, Hezbollah, was the focus back then and therefore these organizations were given medical help in turn for agreeing not to kill Druze and to stay away from the Israeli border.

It was quite evident Israel's position as it hasn't tried to fight for Al Nusra when Assad recaptured that area even though it could easily make the Syrian regime forces retreat.

Also, the repeated bombing of the current syrian government forces are probably not due to some outbursting friendship


There's an alliance between the new left and islamism due to some ideological similarities.

Sure one side would march for pride and the other hangs gays on cranes.

However, in foreign policy both explain anything as some product of colonialism, a phenomena that essentially disappeared 60 years ago.

This is due to the effect Edward Said had on US humanities, which was in turn was influenced by Muslim Brotherhood thought in his home country of Egypt


Ironic considering Iranians consider themselves to be under Islamic colonial oppression.

I hadn't heard of Edward Said, thanks for mentioning.

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