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> "The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which" —GO

> "Now, however, the concept of human brotherhood began to be assailed by people who were not yet in positions of command, but merely hoped to be so before long. In the past the Middle had made revolutions under the banner of equality, and then had established a fresh tyranny as soon as the old one was overthrown. The new Middle groups in effect proclaimed their tyranny beforehand." —EG


> metrics like followers and revenue

Maybe I'm being naive here, but I kind of had the impression OnlyFans content was the sort of thing where physical location doesn't play much of a role? Do they really "go on tour" with that stuff these days? Sell out venues for the live act?


For a different professor, there's Dr. Bob Altemeyer, who wrote a book in 2006 (after 40 years of research) that includes a section on evidence-based deradicalisation[0] of authoritarian followers, pp240-245: https://theauthoritarians.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/The... (for objections, see [1])

That's nonfiction, and anachronistic. As far as fiction in the correct setting goes, I'm drawing a blank, and I even had to read things like "At the Bridge" and "The Tin Drum" in school (as well as watch dokus like "The White Rose" and "Triumph of the Will"[2]).

Most stories I know are of the unrepentant[3]; maybe I can dig some repentant ones up later?

[0] dereactionalisation?

[1] some discussion at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24786278

[2] if I am overly paranoid, maybe it's because it's difficult to see anyone's GOAT propaganda these days and not compare it with Riefenstahl; she made the https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TropeCodifier ?

[3] including, but not limited to:

Oberleutnant (as he was then) "Kongo" Müller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siegfried_Müller_(mercenary) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGAUW1ZF2xI

Generalmajor Reinhard Gehlen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Gehlen#Gehlen_Organiz... https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/bnd-bundesnachrichtendienst-n...

SS-Sturmbannführer Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun#American_car... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zcU85O82XE ("doctor were-ner von brawn")

(see also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38759207, and elsewhere on HN, for wholesale vs retail sellers)

lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro

  You too may be a big hero
  Once you've learned to count backwards to zero
  "In German, und Englisch, I know how to count down
  Und 我学习中文!" says Wernher von Braun
EDIT: (haven't been using that Gemini, sorry)

Schwarzenegger's neighbours retreated into the bottle[4]:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_P-0I6sAck

[4] https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/85221-atticus-said-naming-p...


Ps: Repentance is one of the things that sell better as science fiction.. (Linebarger?)

Not to be dismissive, just "providing" another perspective while I take a walk to think about that:

In the other bidirection..

If Steve and Ive grokked each others' Jobs..

(You could complete the couplet but I may or may not recommend it)

Edit: Atticus would have been more convincing (to me) if he was more ex-Confederate officer and less Mary Sue

Ps2: deprogramming (ie something that could be applied to Scott Locklin.. I have read his Optiksy takes while thinking about his quasiracist ones.. & tentatively conclude that the Buxton [e: dissonance] angle^W ansatz is in the realm of.. plausibility)

Ps3: there's the Peenemuende slave Labor museum^W monument. Compare German (P/Tin Drum) and Japanese (??? sporadic priests^W Buddhist chaplains I guess) tatemae?

"L": https://archive.ph/dtf2U

Ps4: maybe one could leave it up to American initiative/dynamism* to uncover more of these living [prep]aradoxes.. I highly doubt it could scale (even after defocusing from ORs)

*https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46000060


U: not chaplain-trainee in question but a sizeable pctage of the paradoxes do seem to come from the upper middle/lower upper (more than directly explicated by Linebarger)

Not: Magpie* regurgitation of mixed Confucianist/Supply side precepts

https://youtu.be/bJ_lfBmlScs?t=3m11s

"皈依者狂热" in the comments

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%9A%88%E4%BE%9D

(GoogAI is currently serving a different origin from https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E9%BB%84%E9%9B%80%E5%9C%A8%E5%...

Is this Confucianist Propaganda :)


I was actually surprised that baike.baidu gives pretty much the same story for the CR as en.wikipedia.

The chengyu pretty much summarises what is called "2nd intention" in fencing.

I guess if foxes know they're getting extracted no matter what happens, 狐假虎威 ?

Re: 皈依者狂热 I was surprised to find there actually was a joke:

"Q. What did capitalism accomplish in one year that communism could not do in seventy years?"

because I had figured that it took 70 years of communism for the people to decide the capitalists had been right about communism, and 10 years of capitalism for the people to decide the communists had been right about capitalism, so now they're trying feudalism...

Re: 斩杀线, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e2igZexpMs

Re: Atticus, arguably he's allowed to be, because we see him through Scout's eyes? (there is a fan theory that the family characters in Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon are exactly the same, only in BBT we see them as Sheldon perceives them, and in YS we see them as they perceive themselves?)


Hmm not sure what chengyu I mentioned?

Fencing chengyus should be a thing!

Koryū arts should have had tonne of it tho that you could transplant wholesale?

Placeholder for the wisdom of making exceptions for Atticus (in the name of Harper's stand-in-- so precluding cognizance of any sort of repentance?)


An important difference of Greenland to Scotland wrt devolution: the former has no equivalent of HMNB Clyde.

Yes, there is a nuclear base very close to Scotland's biggest city. Greenland has had NATO early warning systems for nuclear strikes on Canada and the USA. I don't know whether Greenland would count as a target or not, but several places in Scotland are major targets including Faslane.

The Dispossessed? Babel-17? Blindsight?

(for the arrow in the opposite direction: Watts has a short, Malak, about understanding the "friend")


Related thoughts..

(Attempt at applicability:) how "compradores"[0] can provide superior[1] Pastoral Care to , eg, ICE-chimps[2] after having said chimps realise their old bosses, comrades, even their own "archaic needs", have been betraying them all along [3]

[0] "sellers", as in PH of his "foxwork"?

[1] superior in the sense that the welfare will be bespoke but proportional to the struggle and schlep put in by the chimp on his guided path to salvation

[2] we are all part of the chimp troupe, though some may cosplay at foxes. So that wasn't meant to be derogatory

[3] guess this is the "(psychological) warfare" part of this 2 part process.

Sorry for the contrived example. Trying to surf the sync!

Recommendations for tales of how historical (actual, WWII) Nazi bullies got a payout in such futuristic pastoral care? (Part1 or 2)

Quotes from the aforementioned books that precede the above welcome too! (I'm guessing mostly for Part1 if any, but UKL might have covered some of Part2)

Ps: is it me, or has Gemini been giving markedly less useful results this past week?

Ps2: hmmm


In 1940, the face-eating leopards were crocodiles:

> Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last. —WLSC


Re: feeding estuarine man-eaters

The left ("authoritarian" or not) is currently better at getting outraged (bottom, "delicatus"/"pasivo"?), and the right is better at trolling (top-- "activo"(?))

(This was the unambiguous Roman ideology I was maybe hinting at ..so you know Scott Locklin is indeed "non authoritarian" just like he claims

https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/

I basically picked the book because of this, and because wakipedia said it was the world’s most offensively misogynistic series of novels (all four novels were in this book). I was disappointed in this;

Note that here he applies the incorrect strategy --> )

Long before we get to selfdeprogramming, mutual reprogramming looks like the left trolling the right, and the right learning how to get outraged.

Thus.. tips from homophilic role-switching ex-Nazis (leather lovin' fans of Rome long before the SV-neocon detente)?


looks like asking people to read the greeks is already considered trolling.

for latin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Bithynia ?

„Die Partei ist kein Internat für höhere Töchter, sondern eine Kampforganisation.“

Q. What do woke parents and maga parents have in common when their kid Silas wants to be called "she/her"?

A. "Oh my god ... we no longer have a son!"

^-- above the belt ----------- below the belt --v

Q. Why won't the new East Room ballroom be a success?

A. Because Trump is good at holding balls, but he always chokes when he goes to them.

Trump and Putin are meeting at Mar-a-Lago for the Strategic Hypersonic-Arms Restraint Treaty. Kayleigh McEnany wants to get on Trump's good side to start her interview, so she compliments his outfit: "Hey Donald, nice top". He starts to reply, "Thanks! I was gi..." but is interrupted by Putin, who gruffly says "У меня есть имя, знаете ли!"


That last one could work (someone mid has to find it funny)

https://youtu.be/dzdBE6c1cwA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1J5lUKnD4I

other examples of the tone you're going for (at anyone's expense) would be helpful. Normally I get almost all my good lines from Rabinovich, but even a wider late soviet net doesn't turn up much beyond "...and it's in Melania's handwriting"

(I agree that oestrous propaganda is unlikely to play on HN, but I must admit upon hearing the rumour that there is good money to be had in drawing commissions for Rule 34 content that the only deep-pocket collectors I could think of were Three Letter Agencies)


Fwiw salty pro-AfD comments together with one American(?) (mid?) asking if they had a branch in the ole country indicated trolling had happened (whether intended or not)

Re: other vid-- that one seems to sit on the thin line between satire and documentary


Aha! I'd missed "zweiheit", and although I know a good EEPH joke I'd never have recognized the tune...

Only tune I know from there is Nina Hagen's "Farbfilm" (recently I learned that while others needed to build balloons to escape from the east, apparently she just wrote a strongly worded letter ... and EEPH's people were so eager to get rid of her that it worked)

Is it still possible to troll with the ehemaligen union? (1 May has been googlebombed to be "law day" in the ole country, and one fine cold war year two wags ran the hammer and sickle up an official flagpole... folks were not amused)

once as a party tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP7LpUVUgqA

once serious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBnCo2SKafU

PS ich musste sehr lange suchen, um das Salz zu finden. Partystimmung pur!


E: https://youtu.be/WiR-5swzlvE

Hope you didn't miss the NK flag either!

Hmm the essence of (US) rightwing suffering seems to stem from being made to sit in a room (=to think beforehand)??

For me, that explains the (high-)SV-feudalist detente (both of which selectively empower personalities who prefer to think afterwards/with whatever they have on hand?)

Let me know if you have any objections/nuances to add


While we're on the subject of KZ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2W47fpL7pI

Overheard in MC: «Бери Шанель, пошли домой!»


FWIW Wadge and Ashcroft tried a similar cache the world approach and ran into issues, but that was half a century ago, when storage was way more expensive...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_(programming_language)

https://billwadge.com/2022/07/17/we-demand-data-the-story-of...


Thesis topics? (either of you all)

Maybe they should sell Nuuk, not Washington DC, on the idea?

https://apnews.com/article/greenland-us-trump-denmark-61eeb9...

langiappe: https://www.angryflower.com/348.html


When my wife picked up her replacement passport, they had a scanning machine in the waiting room so you could check the NFC details before leaving the premises. (it also happily told me what my blue one reported over NFC)

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