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Sounds like Robs anger is directed a multiple know issues and “crimes” that the AI industry is responsible for, it would be hard to compile an exhaustive list outside of a lawsuit but if you genuinely aren’t aware there’s plenty in the news cycle right now to occupy you and or outrage the average person.

-Mass layoffs in tech AI data centers causing extreme increases in monthly electricity -bills across the US -Same as above but for water -The RAM crisis is entirely caused by Sam Altman - General fear and anxiety from many different professions about AI replacing them - Rape of the copyright system to train these models


I find it notable that he pointing out making simpler software. One of my fears is the ease with which GenAI produces reams of code—that this will just lead to bloat and fragility.


I kinda believe this.

there's a shift in how you make software here. LLM will produce a ton of code that embeds decisions, it's well done but it means you never have to reflect about the design, interfaces yourself. you can keep abusing the context window

most of software engineering was dealing with human limits through compression. we make layers, modules, abstractions so that we can understand each part a bit


thanks

i kinda agree with all of these

ultimately AI is the equivalent of nuclear weaponry but for human economies.. this is something that should be controlled outside private companies (especially since it's part public research and public data..)


I truly don’t understand comments like this.

You agreed with the other poster while reframing their ideas in slightly different words without adding anything to the conversation?

Most confusingly you did so in emphatic statements reminiscent of a disagreement or argument without there being one

> no computer system just does stuff on its own.

This was the exact statement the GP was making, even going so far as to dox the nonprofit directors to hold them accountable… then you added nothing but confusion.

> a human (or collection of them) built and maintains the system, they are responsible for it

Yup, GP covered this word for word… AI village built this system.

Why did you write this?

Is this a new form of AI? A human with low English proficiency? A strange type of empathetically supportive comment from someone who doesn’t understand that’s the function of the upvote button in online message boards?


my point was more concise and general (should I have just commented instead of replying?), sorry you’re so offended and not sure why you felt the need to write this (you can downvote)

accusing people of being AI is very low-effort bot behavior btw


seems to me when this kind of stuff happens, there's usually something else completely unrelated, and your comment was simply the first one they happened to have latched onto. surely by itself it is not enough to elicit that kind of reaction


I do see the point a bit? and like a reasonable comment to that effect sure, I probably don’t respond and take it into account going forward

but accusing me of being deficient in English or some AI system is…odd…

especially while doing (the opposite of) the exact thing they’re complaining about. upvote/downvote and move on. I do tend to regret commenting on here myself FWIW because of interactions like this


Some people seem to think that every thing they say or write has to somehow be an argument or counterpoint, or find something to correct, or point out flaw.

So when they see a piece of writing that is in agreement and concisely affirms the points being made, they don’t understand why they never get invited to parties.


First of all, I don’t recommend going through life yucking someone else’s yum.

Second of all, I took TFA advice and read that article with the slowness and deliberate attention it recommended and found it to be trite and difficult to distinguish from AI slop… but if that’s what brings this person joy, good for them.

Who cares if the GP eats their cookies in one bite and listens to their audiobooks at 2.25x speed? Because one self help guru turned blogger said it’s a bad idea?


Interesting how in your second paragraph you do exactly the thing you said not to do in your first.


Oh my.

I feel like we’re corrupting an innocent mind by explaining this to you.

They want the cucumber to be removed too buddy. Don’t worry about it OK.


I would also like a copy, someone in this community must have made a copy. #Mirror for quick searcher's.


It really is a tragedy. I can't find it anywhere and I really wanted to reference it for future meetings.

@spagoop can you reupload it?


in case you didn't see it, there's a mirror here: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1M-d9rRsFnC8zUkeFrkVC...


Your question is why is issue #1 of a very old and popular thing valuable?


I get that it's more valuable than Superman #200, but why 9 million dollars valuable. There's a poorer quality one at 5 million, but that also means that there's other copies in existence.

It's also not the first Superman comic, what about Action Comics #1?

Why is the Call of Cthulhu (Weird Tales, Feb 1928) about $50k?

Or in terms of characters, what makes Superman worth 3x more than MARVEL #1 or Batman?


It's a combination of importance and condition.

Superman was arguably the first super-hero, and certainly the first successful/popular one. And Superman #1 is the first time a super-hero got their own dedicated comic book. It has long been generally considered the third-most desirable comic book issue in existence, after Action Comics #1 (first appearance of Superman) and Detective Comics #27 (first appearance of Batman).

This copy of Superman #1 was graded as a 9.0, which basically means it's like-new, despite being 86 years old. And it's naturally in that condition without ever undergoing restoration, which affects the value. Of all known unrestored copies of Superman #1, this copy is in the best condition.

That said, there are at least three known comic book copies that would be valued more highly: two known unrestored 9.0 copies of Action Comics #1, and one known unrestored 9.2 copy of Detective Comics #27. If any of those were to be sold at auction today, their value would almost certainly be a lot higher than $9 million, in part due to this Superman #1 auction setting a recent precedent.


I don’t often log in to HN to comment, but when I do it’s usually when I see this type of comment.

You can always spot them by the first word being “No” or “False” followed by a confidently asserted yet hilariously incorrect statement.

I suggest reading this [0] and approaching these discussions with more humility in the future. As you yourself stated, you’re an SRE, not a security expert, yet this forum is full of them.

0: https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-u...


Wow! The linked article is downright terrifying. It convinced me that spying is the real purpose of forcing apps on users. How do we look in terms of regulations on this issue? I assume the EU data act covers part of that, right? What do we have for the rest of the world?


Yeah, this is the reason why Swiggy offers discounts for their phone app and not their web app. The discount is effectively paid for by your personal data.


I believe they were implying they don’t get social cues due to neurodivergence, likely autism. Hilariously you’re also not picking up on their social cues and implications, which is likewise telling.


Quite right. Reading such intense motives behind such simple interactions is one of those allistic things that has me going like ???


Not reading such motives is not a sign of neurodivergence. If people are jumping to these types of conclusions, it's their deficiency. Plenty of normal, non-neurodivergent people refuse to read much into these things.

I've read a number of books on effective communications, and they all emphasize not to read into these signals, and when you do, to go and have a conversation about it to confirm them. I found, as many have, that the error rate is about 50% (i.e. half the time you read the signals wrong).

These books are for normal people - not neurodivergent folks.


Only 50%? That would be nice.


It’s perhaps even more maddening than that. Even if all these factors are at play, it doesn’t mean they actually matter all that much to anyone involved. These two coworkers might otherwise really get along and respect each other, but this is one of the games that they are playing with each other.

On the surface, implicitly negotiating over who is more important sounds horribly dramatic, but it’s a game that’s happening constantly among everyone. Usually folks push and pull over some equilibrium point, one person making concessions, then the other, in turns, with the actual hierarchy determining roughly how many turns each person should concede before making a demand of the other. This is where you get dynamics like “he’s a very demanding boss but he cares a lot about his employees” (high amplitude of switching between demand and concession) or “she’s very sharp but also hard to get along with” (doesn’t concede enough to make others feel important).

Concession in this game can be anything, small to large, from being the one who opens the door to let the other through, to offering help during personal problems, to letting someone take more credit on a collaboration.

But, again, these are all played in the implicit layer. They can be raised to the explicit layer by having a “heart to heart”, like “you’re always so kind. I appreciated when you did XYZ”, or “I’d really like if sometimes you did ABC”.


I did, but felt rude to just tell them they're autistic


Yeah and you were rude anyway.

Here's some advice: There will be literally never, ever, be a situation in your life when it is okay or even remotely appropriate to tell somebody else that "they're autistic".

If you figure that someone is autistic just make the accommodation you notice they need, because if you don't you are in fact the one being demanding of them to do the work to make the social thing happen on account of two people.


I’d argue much safer as your upper bound is not an air reservoir strapped to your body, it’s food/water …or in the event that shit really hits the fan, how fast you can secure a wound.

Generally speaking, these are rare events in both sports but one allows much more time for rescues.


"Some of the best diving I've ever done is snorkeling in Cancun..."

You're on the surface, generally with a life vest, don't have to worry about running out of air, generally the guides inter-communicate and take you to hot spots of fishes or turtles or whatever... tropical warm water. Biggest difference is access to air rather than having to be "self-sufficient".


What about the weird gases that can be in caves? Or just gravity dropping you down a hole? Sounds pretty dangerous.


I recently took a cave rope climbing technique course, after being comfortable with rope climbing in other disciplines, such as climbing, rope rescue and glacier rescue.

The bolting techniques used in caves are fucking terrifying. They work, but they are terrifying.


I don't understand, if you are not sure about a two bolt anchor, you can always drill more, rock quality is usually very good. Why do you trust, say an ice axe deadman more than expansion bolts?


I'm specifically thinking about using older self-drive bolts, which seem to still be used if they are placed. I have only met people thinking they are acceptable in the caving environment.

And also using temporary bolts as the Coeur 8 mm, which is rated for 2 kN before deformation in the worst direction (and the mechanism of those bolts are more akin to a cam, making them squiggle a lot in the hole, which is safe, but scary. My ice axe don't squiggle).

Obviously you use redundant bolts, and there are much lower forces in SRT than in dynamic falls, but I still think it's scary as hell.


The strapped air reservoir could come in handy for when it rains...


Cave diver here, the article asserts how rare warm caves are but I think that is a very European mindset.

The Mecca for cave diving is in the Yucatán and surrounding areas and the caves there are exceptionally warm. The surface water can be chilly, coming in around 21c at one of the many cenotes (sinkholes, which are the entry points into the system) as rainwater fills them, but the further into the cave you penetrate you will eventually cross the halocline, at which point deeper = warmer ocean water. It’s quite unintuitive but delightful to warm up after a 2+ hour dive. It’s common for divers to go deeper, pull their wetsuit open a little to fill it with warmer water (24c+) and then rise up back to the planned depth.

Cold cave diving is a very different experience and is usually found in Florida and Europe. Don’t recommend.


Recreational (not caves, no thank you!) diver here, jealous of your balmy 21C=70F water temps.

Here in lakes Michigan and Superior, diving on wrecks usually brings you below the thermocline to water temps from 0C to 10C ~= 50F. Only on rare inversions or at the surface at the south end of the lakes do water temps get much above 70.

You Florida, Carribean, and Central American divers have it made with your balmy water temperatures!


I found Florida's caves positively delightful at 21 C; never felt the need to dive dry.

I am envious of the speleothems in Yucatán cenotes. Florida's caves are all phreatic, so you don't get any real decoration beyond scalloping. Still fun to dive, just not much to see aside from water, wet rocks, and a line. And not even that if you blow the viz.


21c sounds nice but I know Floridas geology leads to some comparatively deep caves. Most Cenotes range between 15ft-65ft but from what I hear about the Florida landscape is 85ft is average and some caves go past 300ft, which isn’t going to be warm anywhere.


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