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Dario wanted to sell a $200 million chat bot to the US military and also dictate how it could be used. The government said no. And because of that Claude also cannot be deployed to the GenAI.mil AI infrastructure. This means that any sensitive work for the DoD that uses Claude will go through Anthropic's infrastructure, not the US military-hosted backend.

So yes obviously defense contractors are forbidden to use it.


If the government wanted to put iPhones in missiles, and apple said "we won't sell you iPhones to put in missiles" would the correct government response be to say "no government contractor can ever use an iPhone".

Sure why not? The government is just exercising its power as a purchaser.

Exercising its power as a purchaser is "not buying it" or "choosing a competitor." Instead, this is arbitrarily and capriciously using an administrative mechanism in a novel way to punish a company.

The "administrative mechanism" here is just a way of exercising purchasing control. A private company could do the same thing.

> A private company could do the same thing.

Probably not, no private company has the ability to tell all its suppliers "thou shalt not do business with <some other company>". They lack the pull to compel them to do so. The closest would be things like what MS did back in the 90s, and got them in hot water with the anti-trust case against them.


That's not what happened here. It was "you can't use <some other company> for stuff you do for us."

That's not what happened here and you know this. It was, literal quote, "“[e]ffective immediately, no contractor, supplier, or partner that does business with the United States military may conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic.”

Fair, and still not something most companies can pull off. Again, without risking running into anti-trust laws like MS did.

Do you seriously think that you can go to all your vendors (if you were a business owner) and tell them, "You can't use Atlassian when working on anything you sell us." How will your business actually compel all those vendors to drop their use of Atlassian for that work? How will you verify compliance and why should any of them sign a contract with you with these restriction? And if they do, how will you avoid anti-trust violations because almost certainly the only way you could talk them into signing such a contract would be to be a massive company throwing your weight around (like MS did with hardware OEMs back in the 90s, among other things).


Private companies are not bound by the first amendment, the fifth amendment, the administrative procedure act, etc.

'why not'? It's retaliatory beyond all proportionality, for one.

"Lay down on my couch and take off your shirt, or you'll never find work in this town again"

>I'm just exercising my power as a purchaser.

No shit. The point is it shouldn't be used that way and that is not what this law is for.

Should the government be able to designate a company supply chain risk if they don't like the price?


They are not "just a purchaser" though. It's the world's most powerful organization that is funded by the people and is supposed to be for the people. I'm all for businesses making FAFO decisions, but expect a lot more here.

The fact that it’s a publicly funded entity is more reason for it to adopt hardball tactics, not less. It’s similar to FDR’s comments on public sector unions. When the government is the buyer, it’s even more important to get the best deal and terms possible, because it’s the public’s money’s you’re spending and the public’s interest you’re serving.

Exactly, setting policy for Americans and American companies is extremely important and should not be ego driven. These deals are to improve America, not to look strong.

The U.S. military’s policy has always been to secure the absolute best technology for killing people. So the DOD quite reasonably believes that it’s in America’s interest to have the best technology for building AI killing machines with no restrictions from non-military people on how it’s used.

when you say 'quite reasonably', you are aware that no-human-in-the-loop AI kill chains are war crimes, right?

"maximum lethality, not tepid legality."

There are limits.

I bet they could get a better deals if the military went and started taking hostages to aid in price negotiation.

After all, getting the best price is in the public interest.


The DoD and US military does not allow contractors to use iPhones or anything else that is not backed by government-hosted or compliant infrastructure, such as GovCloud. The fact that the Pentagon and Anthropic could not come to an agreement on the usage and deployment to GenAI.mil means that it can't be used.

The reasons why are incidental to that requirement for defense contractors.


> The DoD and US military does not allow contractors to use iPhones

What are you talking about? That's nowhere close to a true statement.


> that is not backed by government-hosted or compliant infrastructure, such as GovCloud

Go into a random defense contractor office and (assuming you can get in to do this) ask them how many of their iPhones are managed by the company. The percentage who say theirs are will be close to 0%. Most are personal devices, and they use them to call into meetings with DOD officials all the time with no special precautions taken.

Wym "backed by"? This makes no sense. I am a contractor, use an iphone, and never connect it to govcloud.

https://www.theregister.com/software/2026/04/01/claude-codes...

Anthropic did not host the model that the Department of War used. It had, and still has no control over the models it has deployed in classified environments.


It's always irked me. It's like saying a Photoshop binary is "open source" just because you can (theoretically) run it on your own computer instead of through a SaaS web app.

I mean if you push it, all software you can get your hands on is open source, it's just that binary code is a bit tougher to read than the form it was compiled from.

Also since you brought it up, I'd argue the difference between SaaS and local is way more important than "open source" vs "closed source". Closed source you can decompile. SaaS on someone else's cloud, you can do fuck all about.

That's why SaaS is so popular, too.


The word "source" explicitly means the pre-compiled code.

> Someone should copyright the American flag

You're someone


It's just an internet meme phrase. "X is not a serious Y" just means that X is a joke.

It's a dumb phrase and overused in contexts like this.


That’s not the meaning here. It means that Microsoft lacks the qualities required to be taken seriously, like competence or reliability.


"Is not serious" is not serious?


> given the leeway the government gave that predatory website.

They are only blocking it because the French gambling mafia/authority is not getting their cut. They do not care in any way at all about a "predatory" gambling website.

They just want their share.


They want them to follow legally enacted laws in an open democracy.


It's all about nuance. The gambling mafia comment is pure gold.


If you’re aware of the organization called “FIFA” you can’t believe this is true.

I responded to the wrong comment, I ment to respond to the GP.


Fifa is Swiss, not French.


I didn’t say anything about the French.


The context was France: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48998632

Since Fifa is Swiss, it has nothing to do with this court ruling. So indeed, why bring it up?


So why bring it up.


FIFA is the most corrupt organization in sports.


So why are all 50 US states not allowing sports betting?


I don't care about sports betting. I care about government blocking websites just because it exists on the internet. It was already illegal for Polymarket to accept bets from French people.

FanDuel cannot operate in France but their website isn't blocked. So how do we explain this?

France, EU, Italy, Spain, La Liga are just consistently making fools out of themselves trying to block everything on the internet when they don't like it.

Maybe it's just because regulatory censorship is inconsistent and doesn't make any sense. It's like the China firewall but even dumber and less effective.


So if something is illegal you don't think it's moral to enforce that people don't do it because just being illegal should be enough?

Note there's no liability on the ISPs, they do not have to pay a fine for not having blocked it, they do not have to ban alternative DNS. In Europe there is apparently a legal mindset that you can recruit a third party to conduct an action that is not onerous to enforce a blockade. A court can point to someone who has a DNS server and order them to block certain lookups.


Your entire argument is based on the fact that France cannot fight all websites at once? Will you change your opinion if Fanduel and others are blocked in 6 months as well?


The decision was made in the context of foreign interference with elections.


Sometimes countries can formulate energy policies that accomplish two goals at once.

They can keep taxes on refined petroleum products low in order to not destroy the present economy, while simultaneously fostering a budding renewable energy industry. USA is the second largest producer of renewable energy in the world behind only China. California + Texas by themselves rank 6th in the world.


Well the US could just pump their wells and outproduce the entire rest of the world in crude oil and refined products like gasoline if it wanted to. Or if it was forced to.


> Well the US could just pump their wells and outproduce the entire rest of the world in crude oil

The US is already the largest producer of crude oil in the world.

They took first place around 2018 and is currently ~30% above no. 2 (Saudi Arabia).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_extra...


Isn’t that what it already does? At least in 2025 the numbers I see have the US as the top producer


It's a bad metric, but also Zig didn't migrate all of their issues from GitHub. Run the same count on GitHub and you'll see the full picture


> There is a reason why ASML's next-generation research photolithography machine is currently being installed and developed in upstate New York, and not somewhere in the Netherlands. The same reason that Cymer is still in San Diego instead of being relocated to Europe.

What is the reason?


Because it's American tech funded by the USA CHIPS Act and the Department of Energy. Tightly controlled by the US government.


> At 1 million euros per head.

Over 5 years...


Which still a great salary and competitive with the US, in academia.


That’s not salary that’s research funds to hire students and start the lab.


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