This was bound to happen. IP is data and data is moat.

No. Money is moat. Not enough of it is what keeps the average person on the treadmill rather than drawing their own cartoons.

Hustle just to barely stay afloat water or drown, means no time to compete with our own output.

America is a financially engineered joke regurgitating its own recent history, collapsing like an LLM trained on its own output. The rich are not even pretending it's "a free country" as they have enough wealth for how many years left most of them have to live, and have seen the apathy to their own plight keeping the average person in theit lane they don't fear the public.

It’ll all collapse as they generationally churn out of life and the Millennials on down with zero skills but "data entry into a computer" will be holding an empty bag, taking orders from foreign nations that bought up all the American businesses we built.

That goal post moved so fast it made a whooshing noise as it passed

I think you're mistaken. That whooshing sound must have been my comment flying over your head.

That was my first comment in this thread, so there was no established goal to change. My sole goal was to clarify the meaning of an idiom that the comment I was replying to was misstating.

I even included a disclaimer that "This comment isn't a judgment of this specific case", so I don't know how you could have received it as such.

It's not slowly dying, it was dead on arrival and never had any real traction

Risk management kills any attempt at bold choices, decisions are steered at the modelable and the low risk. There space is thus shrunk. When there were fewer media behemoths there were more variations on the risk models and the pattern was less descernable.

The public reason given for a layoff is always a self-serving excuse.

Leonhard Euler has entered the chat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_topics_named_after_Leo...

Nothing on that list has been named that way by Euler himself of course.

if you’re Euler you get a pass

This is the real reason the ultra rich are buying media companies. They expect the existing copyright laws to prevail in court and to either make significant revenue licensing IP for training or to take large stakes in AI companies in return for the IP.

Only data is a moat, not algos, not compute.

If this happens then free and open content (the Wikipedia model, more or less) becomes a hugely impactful "commoditize the complement" play for the big AI and tech firms. Every good piece of open content is something that AI firms don't have to license from a proprietary supplier. And if models trained on entirely open content can write an acceptable "first draft" of something new, that's huge acceleration.

Seems like a bad bet to me. It looks like authors are going to lose this case setting the precedent that you not only don’t need to license training data, obtaining it illegally (for free) is totally okay.

Didn't Anthropic's case already set the precedent that training itself is fine? It's not like copyrighted novels are a large portion of human-generated text data. It's just the stuff that's easier to get because it's preserved in bulk.

Video transcription has more or less been solved. Imagine how much data Google has in YouTube transcripts. And the longer these AI chat bots operate the more data they manage to collect for training as well (I think Google making it so you can easily upvote or downvote a response by the bot is a good idea).

IIRC the Anthropic case was non-precendent setting for some reason that I don't remember

Of course they don't like it. CLAW makes the platform fungible and once that happens the magic by which their insane multiples of values exist bursts.

Eight hour estimated restoration time!

I only use the free tiers of any particular app. It forces you to really think about you want the tool to do as opposed to treating it as the 'easy' button.